SFO-JFK Subload Basis on a Monday Morning (AA)

[rahalroxz]

Dear Colleagues in USA,

I'm planning to travel in American Airlines between SFO-JFK using a 'other airline staff' sub-load ticket (oneworld). STD from SFO is 0800h.
I have a fair doubt that flight load of this flight will be very high considering the busy business route on a Monday morning. Yet again I argue otherwise considering that it will land in NYC in late afternoon + there are plenty of other airlines travelling the same route throughout the day.

If anyone has an idea, pls share whether the above flight usually becomes overbooked or rarely has a chance for two sub-load pax.

Thanks in advance

[havick]

Originally Posted by rahalroxz

Dear Colleagues in USA,

I'm planning to travel in American Airlines between SFO-JFK using a 'other airline staff' sub-load ticket (oneworld). STD from SFO is 0800h.
I have a fair doubt that flight load of this flight will be very high considering the busy business route on a Monday morning. Yet again I argue otherwise considering that it will land in NYC in late afternoon + there are plenty of other airlines travelling the same route throughout the day.

If anyone has an idea, pls share whether the above flight usually becomes overbooked or rarely has a chance for two sub-load pax.

Thanks in advance

whats the flight number and date you’re looking at, I can check the loads for you.

domestic travel on zed fares are usually pretty slim as a LOT of commuters and jumpseaters are above you on the standby list.

[rahalroxz]

Originally Posted by havick

whats the flight number and date you’re looking at, I can check the loads for you.

domestic travel on zed fares are usually pretty slim as a LOT of commuters and jumpseaters are above you on the standby list.

Dear Havick,

Thanks a lot for the offer but I'm planning this in September, and i guess its too early to check the load at the moment.
But taking a note on what you said, are the chances are that bad in domestic routes in US ? I thought the chances are pretty high as there are lots of airlines travelling the same route throughout the day.
Also, are they equally bad on non-business routes like LAX-LAS or LAX-HNL ?

Thanks again
o

[AAGpilot]

Originally Posted by rahalroxz

Dear Havick,

Thanks a lot for the offer but I'm planning this in September, and i guess its too early to check the load at the moment.
But taking a note on what you said, are the chances are that bad in domestic routes in US ? I thought the chances are pretty high as there are lots of airlines travelling the same route throughout the day.
Also, are they equally bad on non-business routes like LAX-LAS or LAX-HNL ?

Thanks again
o

HNL is a rough one. I checked loads heading to HNL tomorrow (23rd) on AA just out of curiousity. LAX-HNL has 5 A-321’s all oversold. PHX-HNL has 2 757’s, both oversold. And DFW-HNL has 2 777’s both oversold. That’s pretty much the norm. With that said I don’t think you have too tough of a time SFO-JFK.

[havick]

Originally Posted by rahalroxz

Dear Havick,

Thanks a lot for the offer but I'm planning this in September, and i guess its too early to check the load at the moment.
But taking a note on what you said, are the chances are that bad in domestic routes in US ? I thought the chances are pretty high as there are lots of airlines travelling the same route throughout the day.
Also, are they equally bad on non-business routes like LAX-LAS or LAX-HNL ?

Thanks again
o

HNL routes are almost the most difficult to non-rev On in the whole network, especially if your not an AA employee or able to ride the cockpit jumpseat (on the CASS system which a foreign pilot would not be).

here’s essentially the order of non rev priority on AA flights of getting a seat;

1) A passes (deadheading crews)
2) D1
3) D2 (majority of non revs listed are D2’s)
4) D2P
5) D3
6) ZED fares (your ticket)

Also wirhin your own subgroup it’s then based on time of check in.

theres a few variations on the above based on transfers etc but it only adjusts priorities within each subgroup

The transcon flights (east coast to west coast) are usually easier to get on the red eye flights.

typically domestic routes in the US are far more difficult to non-rev on especially on zed fares as probably 80% + of all crews in the US are commuters. That’s not to say you won’t get a seat, far from it but just be aware it’s not going to be as easy as you think.

[AAGpilot]

[QUOTE=havick;10154038]

HNL routes are almost the most difficult to non-rev On in the whole network, especially if your not an AA employee or able to ride the cockpit jumpseat (on the CASS system which a foreign pilot would not be).

here’s essentially the order of non rev priority on AA flights of getting a seat;

1) A passes (deadheading crews)
2) D1
3) D2 (majority of non revs listed are D2’s)
4) D2P
5) D2R
5) D3
6) ZED fares (your ticket)

Fixed it for ya.

[rahalroxz]

Guys,

thanks a lot for the info...
well I guess I don’t want to take the hassel of being offloaded back to back, specially when there is a strict travel and leave plan. Never thought it would be this tough when 4-5 airlines fly the same route each hour ...
cheers again !

[flyboyike]

Non-rev travel in general is becoming iffier and iffier of late.