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Old 7th Jul 2017, 14:13
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US fighters scrambled because of unruly passenger on Cuba flight

U.S. fighter jets scrambled after 'unruly' passenger disrupts Montreal-Cuba flight - Montreal - CBC News
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Unruly passenger in first class. Must be an interesting story.
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First Class on Sunwing is a definite "contradiction in terms "
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The first class thing is about another incident but involving a Delta flight this time.

From the link above:
This was the second such incident involving a North American flight on Thursday night.

Officials say a Delta Airlines flight bound for Beijing returned to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport after a passenger assaulted a flight attendant.

Airport spokesman Perry Cooper says a man in first class assaulted a flight attendant about 45 minutes into the flight and that passengers then helped restrain the man until the plane landed back in Seattle.
That's my understanding anyway....
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Six ...

.... count'm, SIX fighter planes scrambled for one drunk.

What the hell has happened to our industry?
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Well good excuse to build some flying time and spend taxpayer's money we don't have.
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I'm intrigued to know what possible effect one fighter, let alone six, could have over an unruly drunk.
What thought process could ever lead to that deployment?
Perhaps the Air Force will send an outreach councellor when a herd of Bears or Backfires come calling?
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 13:04
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Originally Posted by ehwatezedoing View Post
The first class thing is about another incident but involving a Delta flight this time.

From the link above:

That's my understanding anyway....
She actually 'bottled' him over the head with a wine bottle!

Alas one of the crew was taken to hospital with quite serious facial injuries so not as amusing as it could have been.
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Originally Posted by oleary View Post
.... count'm, SIX fighter planes scrambled for one drunk.

What the hell has happened to our industry?
You could ask a similar question:

What the hell has happened to fighter pilots?

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Why not scramble six? Practice is practice. When "offered" emergency services on arrival, will never say no, practice is practice.... This about "what has this career become"....
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It's not just Americans. During the '76 Montreal Olympics Games the CAF had CF104s patrolling overhead!

After an excellent landing etc...
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Things aren't always as they appear...

Originally Posted by noflynomore View Post
I'm intrigued to know what possible effect one fighter, let alone six, could have over an unruly drunk.
What thought process could ever lead to that deployment?
Long ago, far away, prior to 9/11, a major European carrier trained thusly:
  • Don't assume the crazy belligerent drunk is what he appears to be. He could well be a diversion for someone else trying to rush the cockpit.
  • Do assume there is an accomplice, probably someone who looks like a nondescript business traveler.
  • Don't leave the cockpit. If you do, do not let anybody get between you and the cockpit door.
  • So you think you can deck him? What about Mr. Accomplice? Stay out of physical conflict; you're needed up front.

Which is by way of saying, if it turned out to be a hijack rather than a drunk, then a fighter could have done the unpleasant-but-necessary thing.

But your'e right about six. Two would have been plenty.
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Originally Posted by Gauges and Dials View Post
if it turned out to be a hijack rather than a drunk, then a fighter could have done the unpleasant-but-necessary thing.
Has the unpleasant-but-necessary thing ever been done? I know Russians have shot down unhijacked and peaceful Koreans, and Americans have shot down unhijacked and peaceful Iranians, but has a real hijack ever ended with a planeload of passengers being sacrificed by a fighter pilot? Are there really protocols in place that could result in that outcome?
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Originally Posted by noflynomore View Post
I'm intrigued to know what possible effect one fighter, let alone six, could have over an unruly drunk.
What thought process could ever lead to that deployment?
Perhaps the Air Force will send an outreach councellor when a herd of Bears or Backfires come calling?

It is there to shoot down the aircraft if it looks like doing a 9/11 and puts a pair of eyes up close to monitor things.
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Numbers game

Assuming it may be a planned action there may be other flights in on the exercise so may as well send up 6 fighters.

If worse case scenario then 300 v potential of N would see 300 sacked as they are goners already and save N.
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