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Hey there,
I was just doing my daily day dreaming about what I want to do for my career as a pilot. I'm currently in year 1 of a 3 year college program in Canada for my flight training so thinking about my career really shouldn't be much of a priority at the moment...but I do it anyways
Anyways, I've always been super interested in being a corporate pilot and NetJets always seemed like the ultimate place for a career as a corporate pilot. They have a huge and diverse fleet, they're a respectable company, they pay fair wages, and there's plenty of room for career advancement. One problem though; they're an American company and I'm a Canadian citizen. However, today I was bored and I was browsing the requirements to be a NetJets pilot on their website and it didn't mention anywhere the requirement to have the legal right to work in the States.
They require:
Airline Transport Pilot Certificate (Multi-Engine Land)
Current FAA First Class Medical certificate
2500 hours total pilot time
500 hours fixed wing multi-engine time
250 hours instrument time (actual or simulated in flight - excludes simulator time)
So at the risk of having my dreams crushed, I thought I'd ask if they would even consider hiring a Canadian and sponsoring their work visa if lets say they couldn't find any experienced American pilots and say I had in far more experience than the new hire hour requirements along with an ATP and even a type rating on one of their aircraft types. Would that be possible or do they just not have the requirement for the right to work in the states because it should just be common sense? Obviously I wouldn't want to take a job away from an American. That happens in Canada with Sunwing Airlines bringing in foreign pilots for the winter season without reciprocity and it's incredibly frustrating. However, if there's no Americans able to fill job vacancies, and I was more than qualified to work there, it would be nice to know that Netjets could be a potential employer!
I appreciate any replies! I'm eager to know the answer even if I have a good idea of what it will be... :P
Thanks,
Martin
I was just doing my daily day dreaming about what I want to do for my career as a pilot. I'm currently in year 1 of a 3 year college program in Canada for my flight training so thinking about my career really shouldn't be much of a priority at the moment...but I do it anyways
Anyways, I've always been super interested in being a corporate pilot and NetJets always seemed like the ultimate place for a career as a corporate pilot. They have a huge and diverse fleet, they're a respectable company, they pay fair wages, and there's plenty of room for career advancement. One problem though; they're an American company and I'm a Canadian citizen. However, today I was bored and I was browsing the requirements to be a NetJets pilot on their website and it didn't mention anywhere the requirement to have the legal right to work in the States. They require:
Airline Transport Pilot Certificate (Multi-Engine Land)
Current FAA First Class Medical certificate
2500 hours total pilot time
500 hours fixed wing multi-engine time
250 hours instrument time (actual or simulated in flight - excludes simulator time)
So at the risk of having my dreams crushed, I thought I'd ask if they would even consider hiring a Canadian and sponsoring their work visa if lets say they couldn't find any experienced American pilots and say I had in far more experience than the new hire hour requirements along with an ATP and even a type rating on one of their aircraft types. Would that be possible or do they just not have the requirement for the right to work in the states because it should just be common sense? Obviously I wouldn't want to take a job away from an American. That happens in Canada with Sunwing Airlines bringing in foreign pilots for the winter season without reciprocity and it's incredibly frustrating. However, if there's no Americans able to fill job vacancies, and I was more than qualified to work there, it would be nice to know that Netjets could be a potential employer!
I appreciate any replies! I'm eager to know the answer even if I have a good idea of what it will be... :P
Thanks,
Martin
Guaranteed, you'll need the "right to work" in the US. Just as a Yank needs on to work in Canada. Marry an American.
Or get sponsored to work in the US.
GF
Or get sponsored to work in the US.
GF
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Thanks for the reply! I guess I didn't word that right. Of course you need the legal right to work in America... But if there was an applicant that didn't have their green card but they were the only qualified applicant, would they sponsor the person's green card so he/she would be legal to work? I'm guessing the answer is no. I'm sure they'd just lower their requirements..
All the best,
Martin
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Appreciate your enthusiasm but, unless YOU obtain the right to work in the US, it will be no bueno. NetJets will never have a shortage of qualified applicants and be in the position to sponsor any foreign pilot to work for them. Their union, NJASAP, would never allow it.
Find yourself a nice American girl-or boy (in certain states) to realize your dream.
Best of luck. Stay warm.
Find yourself a nice American girl-or boy (in certain states) to realize your dream.
Best of luck. Stay warm.
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Oh well it was worth asking. Thanks for your reply and for clarifying. I totally understand. 
I can't say that I would try to find an American girl just so I could get a job there lol! But hey if I ever meet the one and she just happens to be American, I guess NetJets could be a realistic possibility :P
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I can't say that I would try to find an American girl just so I could get a job there lol! But hey if I ever meet the one and she just happens to be American, I guess NetJets could be a realistic possibility :PCheers
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NAFTA rules for US jobs
We went through hoops trying to get our son into the US as a pilot and it is not possible unless you do what the other posters are saying.
Check out this link for allowed jobs and qualifications.
Good luck
Professions Covered by NAFTA | Embassy of the United States Ottawa, Canada
Check out this link for allowed jobs and qualifications.
Good luck
Professions Covered by NAFTA | Embassy of the United States Ottawa, Canada
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NetJets Europe used to sponsor first-officers from zero-hours through training onto type - you might find you have more chance as a Canadian with some European ancestry perhaps? As usual, posters here are always quick to tell you that there will never be a shortage of qualified applicants for these sort of positions - my outfit used to struggle to find suitable applicants with quite a lot less than the hours stated here and for a better package for the first couple of years. We used to do a lot to try to accommodate applicants that didn't quite meet the hiring minimums.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
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Reverserbucket, flying bizjets in Europe would be incredible! I unfortunately don't have any relatives there that are alive anymore lol. I had a bit of an cliche epiphany the other day though. I realized that there's not much you can do to control your future, so just go with the flow I guess. If the flow leads me to an awesome corporate gig in a cool location, then that would be great! If not, whatever. As long as I'm flying
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papazulu - quite right, which is why I prefixed my statement with 'used to'.
My point being that there just might be opportunities in the EU that aren't available in the U.S. (NetJets and NJE highlight how different the hiring landscape was/is between the two regions). Not to say that the OP would have any easier time getting the right-to-work there but at least it could have been an alternative. The NJE cadet scheme may be finished but BA are recruiting zero hour trainees for their Future Pilot Programme right now.
PZ - I'll have a look at the Bizjets forum but was there an issue with the cadets or just over-crewed with the downturn? PM if you prefer.
My point being that there just might be opportunities in the EU that aren't available in the U.S. (NetJets and NJE highlight how different the hiring landscape was/is between the two regions). Not to say that the OP would have any easier time getting the right-to-work there but at least it could have been an alternative. The NJE cadet scheme may be finished but BA are recruiting zero hour trainees for their Future Pilot Programme right now.
PZ - I'll have a look at the Bizjets forum but was there an issue with the cadets or just over-crewed with the downturn? PM if you prefer.
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Hi RB!
No idea on how the NJ (US) recruitment works but some pilots I know over there told me they would give an arm and a leg to join the ranks, so...go figure! One of them ventured as far as saying he had only 2 HAPPY pilot-friends: one was working for NJ and the other for KLM!
When the NJE-cadet scheme was running I was just a low-time FI. The scheme was opened just to those that could afford the highly priced zero-to-hero training provided by Oxford Aviation Academy. I had missed that boat already so no much to regret. However, I never met one of their cadets, just had a glimpse of their glossy advertising on a magazine. It is only my guess but I am convinced the scheme was killed by the collapse of the world's economies in late 2007. To NJ credits, they did a lot to soften the impact of being overcrewed (by over 300 pilots someone said...) but shedding staff was the only way to survive, apparently. Some of their more obsolete fleet (i.e. the Beechjets) had the same fate.
No idea what happened to it but long gone are the days when they even had a B1900 turned flying-workshop to rescue AOGs around EU, a job that would have given a chance to a low-timer MEP guy to put a foot on the ladder and from there move up inside the company. What a waste...
Best luck everyone!
PZ
No idea on how the NJ (US) recruitment works but some pilots I know over there told me they would give an arm and a leg to join the ranks, so...go figure! One of them ventured as far as saying he had only 2 HAPPY pilot-friends: one was working for NJ and the other for KLM!
When the NJE-cadet scheme was running I was just a low-time FI. The scheme was opened just to those that could afford the highly priced zero-to-hero training provided by Oxford Aviation Academy. I had missed that boat already so no much to regret. However, I never met one of their cadets, just had a glimpse of their glossy advertising on a magazine. It is only my guess but I am convinced the scheme was killed by the collapse of the world's economies in late 2007. To NJ credits, they did a lot to soften the impact of being overcrewed (by over 300 pilots someone said...) but shedding staff was the only way to survive, apparently. Some of their more obsolete fleet (i.e. the Beechjets) had the same fate.
No idea what happened to it but long gone are the days when they even had a B1900 turned flying-workshop to rescue AOGs around EU, a job that would have given a chance to a low-timer MEP guy to put a foot on the ladder and from there move up inside the company. What a waste...
Best luck everyone!
PZ
