Who knows the regs?
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As a US certificated commercial pilot with an ATP, no I can't tell you what 91.103 is off the top of my head. However I tell *every* pilot that is trained at our company "don't memorize regs by number". There is one easy answer on every oral - "I don't remember exactly but I know where to reference that."
I admit I looked it up and that regulation is actually superseded by regulations under FAR Part 121. The preflight is replaced with the requirement of the aircraft to be in an airworthy condition with all records reflecting such as per FAR 121.303 and FAR 121.605, weather requirements are covered by FAR 121.599, FAR 121.99, 121.103, and FAR 121.607 cover the need for navigation facilities for domestic operations, FAR 121.189 and 121.195 cover performance requirements and weights, and fuel requirements are set forth by 121.639 for domestic operations.
Commercial aircraft are not required to carry the POH or AFM if the operator has an approved FCOM. In other words air carriers are authorized to develop and author their own versions of the POH/AFM so long as it is approved (or accepted, I can't remember) by the Administrator. The FCOM is not required to have landing/takeoff information if the operator has an approved Airport Analysis manual available to the flight crew.
So in short, no - I don't know 91.103 and it does not apply to my operations.
If that is the regulation you think drives requirements udner FAR Part 121 I would call into question your air carrier training.
I admit I looked it up and that regulation is actually superseded by regulations under FAR Part 121. The preflight is replaced with the requirement of the aircraft to be in an airworthy condition with all records reflecting such as per FAR 121.303 and FAR 121.605, weather requirements are covered by FAR 121.599, FAR 121.99, 121.103, and FAR 121.607 cover the need for navigation facilities for domestic operations, FAR 121.189 and 121.195 cover performance requirements and weights, and fuel requirements are set forth by 121.639 for domestic operations.
Commercial aircraft are not required to carry the POH or AFM if the operator has an approved FCOM. In other words air carriers are authorized to develop and author their own versions of the POH/AFM so long as it is approved (or accepted, I can't remember) by the Administrator. The FCOM is not required to have landing/takeoff information if the operator has an approved Airport Analysis manual available to the flight crew.
So in short, no - I don't know 91.103 and it does not apply to my operations.
If that is the regulation you think drives requirements udner FAR Part 121 I would call into question your air carrier training.
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I have held a private licence with instrument rating for over a decade and often fly my 172 in total IMC.
The answer is yes, I know what part 91.103 is. Recall like mine comes with experience.
You should really follow grumpyoldgeeks advice and have a sit down chat with your Chief Pilot. He or she will be able to walk you through it Iīm sure. You might want to consider working on your personal flight discipline so that this sort of knowledge vacuum doesnīt impact negatively on your career.
I have held a private licence with instrument rating for over a decade and often fly my 172 in total IMC.
The answer is yes, I know what part 91.103 is. Recall like mine comes with experience.
You should really follow grumpyoldgeeks advice and have a sit down chat with your Chief Pilot. He or she will be able to walk you through it Iīm sure. You might want to consider working on your personal flight discipline so that this sort of knowledge vacuum doesnīt impact negatively on your career.
Common! I specifically said, 'NO PPL's" and you chime in. Am I on camera? Is this a TV show? I ask an straight forward question and a bunch a smart people screw it all up...
Okay...I'm sure you had a super good reason. Maybe the instrument rating put you over the top in your mind. I dunno. Here's a tip...Next time someone asks for a B-777 Captains advice on something don't chime in because you flew a C-172. Yes...one on the numbers match....but it's a little different, even IMC.
As a US certificated commercial pilot with an ATP, no I can't tell you what 91.103 is off the top of my head. However I tell *every* pilot that is trained at our company "don't memorize regs by number". There is one easy answer on every oral - "I don't remember exactly but I know where to reference that."
I admit I looked it up and that regulation is actually superseded by regulations under FAR Part 121. The preflight is replaced with the requirement of the aircraft to be in an airworthy condition with all records reflecting such as per FAR 121.303 and FAR 121.605, weather requirements are covered by FAR 121.599, FAR 121.99, 121.103, and FAR 121.607 cover the need for navigation facilities for domestic operations, FAR 121.189 and 121.195 cover performance requirements and weights, and fuel requirements are set forth by 121.639 for domestic operations.
Commercial aircraft are not required to carry the POH or AFM if the operator has an approved FCOM. In other words air carriers are authorized to develop and author their own versions of the POH/AFM so long as it is approved (or accepted, I can't remember) by the Administrator. The FCOM is not required to have landing/takeoff information if the operator has an approved Airport Analysis manual available to the flight crew.
So in short, no - I don't know 91.103 and it does not apply to my operations.
If that is the regulation you think drives requirements udner FAR Part 121 I would call into question your air carrier training.
I admit I looked it up and that regulation is actually superseded by regulations under FAR Part 121. The preflight is replaced with the requirement of the aircraft to be in an airworthy condition with all records reflecting such as per FAR 121.303 and FAR 121.605, weather requirements are covered by FAR 121.599, FAR 121.99, 121.103, and FAR 121.607 cover the need for navigation facilities for domestic operations, FAR 121.189 and 121.195 cover performance requirements and weights, and fuel requirements are set forth by 121.639 for domestic operations.
Commercial aircraft are not required to carry the POH or AFM if the operator has an approved FCOM. In other words air carriers are authorized to develop and author their own versions of the POH/AFM so long as it is approved (or accepted, I can't remember) by the Administrator. The FCOM is not required to have landing/takeoff information if the operator has an approved Airport Analysis manual available to the flight crew.
So in short, no - I don't know 91.103 and it does not apply to my operations.
If that is the regulation you think drives requirements udner FAR Part 121 I would call into question your air carrier training.
No No No!!!
That's exactly what I was looking for. For some reason I thought by page 2 I'd have two pages full of that sort of comment. I have to admit I got a carried away with the PPL guy answering my question to 121. Maybe he didn't know what 121 was. Or maybe he's a twit. I don't know...but it was premature for me to go off on him. (sorry old geek)
Anyway, it's too late anyway. I was using this as a last ditch effort to show my retarded CFI friend who knows all the regs by number that airline pilots don't know them by number. We know what they are...but can't quote the actual number, ie, FAR 91.103.
He gave me a ton of crap for not knowing to wich i said no heavy iron pilot knows, to which he said BS and I'm just weak.
My only point here was to try and get a tad of support that most folks flying a plane that burns 6,000 lbs of fuel per hour or more would have no idea what 91.103 is.
I think maybe I worded it poorly. Whatever....live and learn.
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Reckon the OP and this guy (Captain 'subdued' aboard JetBlue flight) are one and the same. No wonder he lost his rag on the flight. Nobody could tell him what FAR 91.103 was.
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Yes, that guy is me.
Say, whilst we're on the subject...
Could you please explain why nobody can answer a very simple question? Either you know it or you don't. Either you're a 121 US pilot or your not. Yet all I get are people who are NOT 121 US Pilots who don't even bother to state if they know it.
WTF!!!!!?????
Say, whilst we're on the subject...
Could you please explain why nobody can answer a very simple question? Either you know it or you don't. Either you're a 121 US pilot or your not. Yet all I get are people who are NOT 121 US Pilots who don't even bother to state if they know it.
WTF!!!!!?????
I thought you had made your last post ?
Not really. They all fly the same, I have experience on several different aircraft, Cessnas, most of the Pipers, and also a Mooney retractable. Itīs as simple as Power+Attitude=Performance. If I had access to the performance manual for half an hour I could fly a 777 just as well as my 172. I canīt believe you fly for a living and donīt know the Regs by chapter and paragraph. That would be like me turning up to work and not knowing how many employees my company had (Iīm a Human Resources Specialist for my day job).
I actually might swap over to airline flying in two or three years when I donīt need my current salary anymore. Itīd be quite a hit to the pocket but there are only so many meetings one should sit through in a lifetime.
Here's a tip...Next time someone asks for a B-777 Captains advice on something don't chime in because you flew a C-172. Yes...one on the numbers match....but it's a little different, even IMC.
I actually might swap over to airline flying in two or three years when I donīt need my current salary anymore. Itīd be quite a hit to the pocket but there are only so many meetings one should sit through in a lifetime.
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No I don't know & remind me please.............
I'm a current U.S. 121 Captain.
Without looking up FAR 91 regulation under discussion I would have no idea what regulation it was referencing.
On a seperate note. I have forgotten how to add somebody on my "ignore" list, will somebody please remind me.
Regarding 411A, I miss him, he died last April 1st if my memory is correct.
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Without looking up FAR 91 regulation under discussion I would have no idea what regulation it was referencing.
On a seperate note. I have forgotten how to add somebody on my "ignore" list, will somebody please remind me.
Regarding 411A, I miss him, he died last April 1st if my memory is correct.
-Northbeach-
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