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Old 7th Jan 2002, 02:19
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Let's face it. This could happen anywhere in the world. AND it probably will unfortunately.


'Nuf said.
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 02:21
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According to the A.P. this idiot "felt sympathy" for Bin Loser...left that statement in a note found after the incident...
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 02:25
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Ha! So now we have it. The guy leaves a "suicide" note saying that he did it out of sympathy for good old oasama bin laden.

Well lets see, nobody else was injured, with any luck and a good insurance policy, the flying school might get a replacement Cessna. So lets look on the positive side. The world is a bit lighter tonight. It is probably a better place. We lost a moron !!

At least his classmates will be spared "massacre by assault rifle"

God Bless America
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 02:38
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Crash pilot 'wrote of bin Laden'

From AFP
07jan02

A YOUNG pilot who deliberately crashed his plane into a Florida office building expressed "sympathy" toward top terrorist suspect Osama bin Laden in a note found in the wreckage, police officials have revealed.

The note was found in 15-year-old Charles Bishop's pocket, Tampa police chief Bennie Holder said.

He characterised it as a suicide note, and said Bishop "clearly stated he had acted alone without any help from anyone else". "He expressed sympathy toward Osama bin Laden and the events of" September 11, the police chief said.

"He was a troubled young man."

AP reported that Holder said there was no evidence Bishop had terrorist ties.

He said Bishop was a loner with few friends, and that the boy wrote that he acted alone.

"Bishop can best be described as a young man who had very few friends and was very much a loner," Holder said.

Bishop crashed the Cessna 172R into the 42-storey Bank of America building in Tampa after taking off without authorisation and ignoring signals to land from a Coast Guard helicopter that pursued the plane. He was killed.

Investigators today interviewed the family of the student pilot and said they would search his personal computer for evidence.
 
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Lucky he was a 15 yr old in a cessna and not a B747 captain who decided over night to exit to the "better life" and take many with him

God Help this will not happen
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 03:31
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Oh what a stupid comment! In what way does saying such a daft thing further this discussion? The first symptom of a thread that has run full course?
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 03:38
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We definately have a strong contender, if not outright winner, of this years "Darwin awards".

My favorite up to this point is the winner of the 96 Darwin award where the brainy finalist found some unused Jato bottles in the desert. He then proceeded to strap these to his pickup truck and managed to ignite them. They found the wreackage 50ft. above the ground, embedded in to a cliff wall. The estimated speed of impact was in the neighborhood of 300 knots.
The bottom line is, as long as these people don't kill anyone else in the process they are doing the planets genetic diversity a huge favor.
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 03:53
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Now that it has been demonstrated that flying a C172 into an office building doesn't do much more than break a window and rearrange the furniture, I suggest that all young Middle Eastern male passengers be flown on C172s instead of jetliners after the usual security check of course.

The pilot can be issued a parachute and a cabin partition can protect him from pax with evil intent.

Might need something with longer legs for North Atlantic...

Just think of the employment opportunities for young pilots.
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 04:24
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I believe the JATO incident referred to by rasa767 is an urban myth. I've heard the story many times, but I've seen no evidence of it. If you have any, I'd love to see it.
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Notso Fantastic,

At least it was on the topic, how does your posting contribute anything?

All you seem to be doing is calling for the thread to be locked, I take it because you personally do not like it, even though you contribute nothing to it?

Don't think the moderators will fall for that, certainly hope not.
 
Old 7th Jan 2002, 06:09
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After Sep 11 the authorities banned private flying near Class B and C airports (all major cities) to all except dual flights and student pilots solo. Honest private/commercial pilots could not fly alone. Knee jerk action of course. Wonder what they will ban now? Look for them to do something completely stupid; that's what we pay their salaries for after all.
Bin Laden damaged aviation, and the government is determined to finish the job.
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 06:24
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Surely the only thing that could have helped would be if students were not given the keys to go and check out the aircraft.
At EGSG the keys used to be left on the dashboard and some people had already speculated that the aircraft could be stolen but it was thought that there would be little chance of anyone actualy doing that because it would be hard to sell a stolen aircraft, but then after 911 it became clear that one needed to think again.
Now all of the keys are kept in reception but I imagine that low hour students (until this weekend) were still given the keys and asked to preflight the aircraft while the instructor finishes his debrief.
All of this does not help if someone gets a licence first and then becomes suicidal.
Are airline pilots imune from becomming suicidal or is it going to become illegal to fly any aircraft Solo ? !!!
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 06:36
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To SIRWA 69....... Do you know why something like this never happens on Bahrain? Because as you stated there is no General Aviation . Are you allowed to fly even little tinny winnie radio controlled airplanes? Are you allowed to bring into your country plans for those little tinny aircraft? What possible damage could a radio controlled aircraft that weighs 2 pounds do? If private aircraft are ever banned from the USA I will give you permission to shoot me in the head. AND I will load the gun for you. I dont know if this is still true, but not many years ago , General aviation carried more passengers than the scheduled airlines did in th USA.. Doubt if true today but I honestly dont know. Now let me get really serious. I like the Bahrain people more than any other in the Middle East but you do live in a very restrictive society compared to the USA. If you dont believe it, Why not come over here and visit me?" I aint kiddding!
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 06:50
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The question is - did the 15-year-old have any fingernail clippers on him? He should have been searched....
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 09:26
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To digress for a moment....

I believe the JATO incident referred to by rasa767 is an urban myth.

Yes it is, debunked here: <a href="http://www.snopes2.com/autos/dream/jato.htm" target="_blank">http://www.snopes2.com/autos/dream/jato.htm</a>

Although I could imagine Wile E. Coyote trying it.
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 11:58
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Jeez next you'll be telling me Wile E Coyote is really just a cartoon character <img src="frown.gif" border="0">


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Old 7th Jan 2002, 17:35
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On the positive side, this incident may demonstrate both to the authorities and the public, that light aircraft pose a minimal threat to security. Compare the damage that would be done by your average 10 ton lorry driving into a building. Hopefully knee jerk responses to GA regulation might now be more measured??

Stupid thought really I know!
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 20:03
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The JATTO incident isn't real? Wile Coyote isn't real? You have upended every thing I believe in! Where's the nearest Cessna?
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 20:21
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If Wil E Coyote is not real then does this mean the ACME Corporation is also imaginary. How am I ever going to rid myself of them pesky road-runners now ???
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Old 7th Jan 2002, 20:28
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Someone can cause more carnage with an automobile. All this talk about keys and student pilots etc. is a bunch of sensationalistic BULLSHI* propagated by an unprofessional news media.

Remember, the news media isn't there to tell the news, it's there to sell soap, cars, condoms, etc. to nitwits who can't think for themselves.

That may be a little harsh, but not much.

[ 07 January 2002: Message edited by: Roadtrip ]</p>
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