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Old 29th Jun 2009, 14:47
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JAA conversion

Hi,

I am an american pilot, who is considering a JAA conversion. I do have question about the FAA records:
I have a incident remark in my FAA file, with a 44709 re-check that followed. The reason was a nose gear collaps on a PA-34-200. When I am done with the conversion, will this be transferred to my JAA license?

Anybody knows how this will affect an interview?

I would appreciate your answer.

Thank you!
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I didn't even know that there was a thing called "incident records" in the JAA system. Anyone else?
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Hei Nick F,

There isn't, in the JAA system (or the coming EASA system). Reason: Neither JAA nor EASA has a central license data base, nor do they specify all the things to record.

What they do is specify certain key items to be recorded, and then leave it to each authority to add whatever info to the records that they might want/need due to national administrative reasons.

One good example are police records: Some JAA states are very strict on scrutinizing these before issuing a pilot license, while other member states don't even look. This problem is not aviation-related, it is a generic EU problem: An action that might be perfectly legal in one EU state might send you to prison in another.

To get back on track: JAAConversion, I do not know the administrative details of all member states, but some member states are generally more bueraucratical, some are less... and you can always (with some efforts) later transfer your JAA license from one state to another...

Cheers, og vennlig hilsen,
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(or the coming EASA system).
Jeez, they are going to change it again?

No doubt making it even more bureaucratic so the paper-pushers deep in the offices can feel good making it harder for pilots to get a paper saying they can drive some damn airplane across the sky.

Somebody with a big broom needs to clean out red-tape rats from their hidding places and set up a simple and efficient system based on skill and judment testing, and simple air-laws with similar minimums (Topography permitting) as well as similar flight and duty time limitations.

You pass one test in one country and you are good to go in another country for same aircraft or category and class.

Where is Obama when you need him?

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Hands will shake and heads will nod, we get by by the grace of god

New name, a worsening in FTLs (flight time limitations) and probably more politictians whose voices need to be heard (at least by themselves), and yet another cashflow. Need to keep the economy going you know.

Why not combine the FAA and the JAA/EASA and call it the WHAA - Western Hemisphere Aviation Authority? Harmoized rules and regs regarding everything. Choose what works well, and scrap what is utter BS.
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Aye wise words Guttn..Lets join 'em all, but include the Asians as well.
God knows the TowerDog has flown aeroplanes all over China and Kazakstan and places between and beyond. Let it be known to mankind that the TowerDog found the air to be the same, the aircraft and the runways to be the same and the only factor varying was the catering.

Why not do a joint 212 nation worldwide licence system based on common sense and no fukken red tape...?

Ooops, that is going to far, the local fiefdoms would be ruined and the paperpushers would be out of a job and their own importance..Scratch that idea...
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I like the idea Towerdog, lets call in to a convention in, lets say, Chicago and all agree on these new common rules for all of the world. Then lets call the new organization something like; ICAO, and the new rules something like; Annex 1.
Good idea Mr. Lman, but ICAO won't do it because they don't have the balls:




Questions on licences issued by a State

ICAO is not in a position to provide information on the Personnel Licensing regulations, practices and procedures of individual Contracting States. Such questions should be directed to the Civil Aviation Authority of that State. See the links to Civil Aviation Authorities for contact information.
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Well, let's remember that each nation has the sovereignty to make their own rules and laws, and what really needs to be done, is to push each ICAO member state to harmonize their rules to the ICAO annexes.
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... and also make some sound, reasonable and easily definable changes to their rules and regs. Get areomedical staff and physicians on hand to make good duty regulations that everyone must abide by
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A couple friends of mine did this for a job and they were given 2 years to get the rest of the exams out of the way and get a "unrestricted" JAA license.
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In wich country did they do that, and is there any way to get in touch with these guys?
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I don't know where they were based but they were flying for Ryanair. Let me see if I can find their emails and I'll let you know.
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