Dovregubben

How come ?

Guttn

Wouldn`t surprise me if they were "offered" a job on the 737 if they sponsor their own typerating. Kind of like a certain Irish loco operator has been known to do

Dovregubben

A valid typerating has always been a requirement to be hired by NAS. Nothing new there.

Dovregubben

As far as I know a lot of guys now has received their fresh 73 rating, but of course bad luck for those sitting left on the MD. Why aren't the union in FlyNordic pushing for a rating for everybody? Are they too busy fighting the PF - SPF battle?

Beech Driver

Begynner gutta boys å bli desp eller?

DY = 200k+ i self sponsored rating
DY = 0 job security

sooo...not gonna happen!

BD

Dissident

And exactly where do you get 100% job security? Sterling? SAS? Finnair? Alitalia? Not even at Ryanair are you guaranteed a job these days. My point is that NAS is just doing business. If you don't have a valid rating on the B737, don't apply. If you want to keep on flying the MD, go to Africa. The world of aviation has changed, roll with it, cause it will never be what it once was. And why would it?

Regarding the .se crew: hopefully they will apply to the positions available in Norway and get first in line. But if you're not willing to leave ARN... you're in for a big surprise... The Swedish aviation industry will not recover for years to come and I seriuosly doubt there will a chance for a bigger NAS-base at ARN. Domestic routes are horrible. Intereuropean ok, but not a moneymaker. If NAS can save a buck by getting rid of the Swedish AOC why shouldn't they?! Due to solidarity? Funny... Doesn't work that way. Ask O'Leary what he thinks about solidarity...

Good luck to ARN-base! I hope you'll make it through some how!

Dissident

So, any updates from NAS regarding the .se-operation and CPH-base? Heard from a friend of a friend who's actually working at Fornebu that they have been interviewing all week and will continue after the holidays. What about the Swedes? Any progress?

Second question: who willl win the battle of CPH: Norwegian, Cimber/New Sterling, Transavia or maybe even SAS? I personally think Norwegian will struggle greatly and probably make it a short visit...

Happy holidays to all!

/Dissident

Hanguren

No need for enemies when you have friends like this...!

I wonder if Dovregubben would consider it fair if .se .dk .pl pilots underbid the conditions of .no pilots, took over most of .no routes, and Dovregubben were offered to apply to start on the bottom of one of the other comanies seniority lists..? At salary level 0....!

If the cooperation between the different Norwegian national pilot groups are as bad as it looks like on this site I would be scared stiff to work for any of the dot companies!

Sooner or later: You will not know what hit you!!

Gnirren

Where, pray are the unions on both sides in all of this? Having drinks and paying with member fees? Best of luck to all the Swedish pilots who I'm guessing lost their judgment and left solid careers thinking this .se "management" could actually run something.

Matriks

If the pilots were organized with proper pilot unions, perhaps there would be some chance of solving this.

Norwegian's pilots should remember their company is not the largest fish in the pond. They are posibly next at the "disadvantaged" end of a takeover like this.

Feel sorry for the .se guys.

Guttn

Now I`m guessing some of this is hypothetical, but it does fit in with the saying "cutting costs at any cost".

From what I understand there is a pilot union in DY, but it seems that they are pro-management. Not bad if everything is a-ok, but one of the jobs a union has is to look after the interests of its members. In this case its pilots. Having several unions sound a lot like a certain other scandi-airline....

Gnirren

Wait. The Norwegians are firing 737 rated pilots in Stockholm and at the same time interviewing outsiders for a new base in Copenhagen?

That is some borderline illegal bull. I guess we see the true colors of these clowns.

Fücking pathetic. To those laid off, seek greener pastures elsewhere instead of prostituting yourselves to a company that clearly couldn't care less about any of you.

To the people in Norway sitting on their fat asses thinking life is great: for shame.

Happy Holidays from the company right...

Matriks

By "proper pilot union" I meant one that is a member of the national and international pilot organisation.

Dissident

OK, thanks for the info. I can only agree with earlier posts about the back-stabbing from the company. Very sad.

So .no will be flying the CPH-routes and that, in turn, will be performed by contractors? which means that none of the swedes or danes that wish to return home will be able to do so?! Weird way of doing it... No contracts on offer for OSL-base? Or BGO, SVG, RYG or TRD? I know of a swedish captain who is being sent to BGO instead of OSL, against his will. Wouldn't it be a bit more logical to send the contractors..? Same goes for CPH- if .no-crew wants to go there wouldn't they normally have a possibility to bid on it?

I say tomato, you say tomaaato. I say unions, you say onions..?

Manamanah

13thstage, what are you-15years old?

Matriks

The main union (.no) is not a member of "flygerforbundet", thus no connection to IFALPA.

Probably no good if ONE part wants to talk.

JimbosJet

Does anyone have an update on Norwegian's current recruitment situation? Are they filling positions solely from Sterling's unfortunate casualties? Do experienced non-Scandinavian pilots stand a chance if they have a genuine desire to live in Norway (or at least closer!)

Seems things have gone quiet, no doubt due to the festive period. Hope you all had a good one!

Dissident

It'll be interesting to see Norwegian's respons to the Cimber/sterling-expansion out of CPH! We're in for a big battle and at least one will have to throw in the towel! There is no way CPH has enough passengers for Transavia, SAS, Norwegian and Cimber! All on the same routes! Insane.... typical aviation... always insane! Four companies will now suffer the financial consequences of an over-established market, instead of just three... Let's start our own bidding on who will go first!

My choice: 1.Transavia 2. Norwegian 3. Cimber 4. SAS

Just for laughs guys, nothing serious!

Hanguren

13thstage: "(never go big when u fly small)"...?

Well, Norwegian went directly from Fokker 50 to Boeing 737.... With quite a success, I have to admit...!

Otherwise, I do not disagree with the sequence you suggest, and the mentioned reason why...

highdownwind

I'm sure the battle for cph will be fierce. But the market is also larger than osl.
About 4-5 million people live within an an hours drive from cph wich is quite bit more than osl. Looks like an untapped market to me, about 20 million people travel through
cph in a year and osl is close behind.