FAA/JAA Conversion
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Halloen,
Jeg jobber for tida som kaptein paa ein Lear 55 i eit charterselskap i Florida.
Lurer paa om det er noen som har reist hjem til Norge og faatt jobb paa amerikanske sertifikat og konvertert til europeiske after the fact?
Er det noen norske selskaper som ansetter flyvere med FAA ATP? Hva er enkleste / billigeste maate aa konvertere paa?
All help and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
FJS
Jeg jobber for tida som kaptein paa ein Lear 55 i eit charterselskap i Florida.
Lurer paa om det er noen som har reist hjem til Norge og faatt jobb paa amerikanske sertifikat og konvertert til europeiske after the fact?
Er det noen norske selskaper som ansetter flyvere med FAA ATP? Hva er enkleste / billigeste maate aa konvertere paa?
All help and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
FJS
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Hi there,
I think it is quite hard to find a job in Norway without a proper lisence. I am sure there are some flightschools in Norway who do that for a nice amount of cash.
I think your countrymen should know best since many of them converted their lisence in Norway within the last couple of years or so-so come on you vikings show some of that northern teamspirit and help out your mate
By the way companies in Scandinavia tend to like jet experience so I think you have a good chance of getting hired here. Just convert your lisence asap. 
Its really booming here.
N_D
I think it is quite hard to find a job in Norway without a proper lisence. I am sure there are some flightschools in Norway who do that for a nice amount of cash.
I think your countrymen should know best since many of them converted their lisence in Norway within the last couple of years or so-so come on you vikings show some of that northern teamspirit and help out your mate By the way companies in Scandinavia tend to like jet experience so I think you have a good chance of getting hired here. Just convert your lisence asap. Its really booming here.N_D
Maybe you are seen as a competitor instead
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Konvertering.
Hei,konvertering kan du gjøre hvor som helst nå i Europa under JAR,du kan shoppe rundt i de forskjellige land for best pris,jeg tror Norge er dyrest i pris,på Bromma i Sverige har de en bra skole,angående ditt amerikanske sertifikat og lear rating er det ikke mer verdt en papiret det er skrevet på,erfaringen der imot er en annen sak,angående jobber i Norge så er det ikke mye som skjer for tiden,Ellers i Europa så finnes det mye jobb bla Easy jet etc...
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The cheapest, and probably best place to do your conversion is in UK. They are all geared up for these conversions (In Scandinavia it is very expensive and they may want you to fly Cessna's again because they don't accept your current rating !!)
First you will have to apply for the conversion and give them all your details/experience and they will write back what you need to do.
Basicly, if you have more than 3000 hours on 30.000kg/above with 500 as Capt you can do 2 exams only and then the Skill test on your type with the UK CAA. However, the license will be restricted to UK registered AC only (however, many EU companies will accept it with this restriction).
If you don't have the above experience and/or want a full unrestricted UK JAR ATPL License..there is only one way to go..all 14 written exams and that would include 2x2 weeks on f.ex Oxford Aviation in UK for the written exams (I can recommend them) After completing the written exams (you have 18 month to do so after first attempt) You arrange the skill test with the UK CAA.
The full unrestricted license can be done in 3 month (if you are not working, lucky and bloody smart), else i would think 6-8 month..with alot of selfstudy..and alot of money
Good Luck
First you will have to apply for the conversion and give them all your details/experience and they will write back what you need to do.
Basicly, if you have more than 3000 hours on 30.000kg/above with 500 as Capt you can do 2 exams only and then the Skill test on your type with the UK CAA. However, the license will be restricted to UK registered AC only (however, many EU companies will accept it with this restriction).
If you don't have the above experience and/or want a full unrestricted UK JAR ATPL License..there is only one way to go..all 14 written exams and that would include 2x2 weeks on f.ex Oxford Aviation in UK for the written exams (I can recommend them) After completing the written exams (you have 18 month to do so after first attempt) You arrange the skill test with the UK CAA.
The full unrestricted license can be done in 3 month (if you are not working, lucky and bloody smart), else i would think 6-8 month..with alot of selfstudy..and alot of money
Good Luck
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Avoid UK at all cost... Or you'll pay and alot. UK being by far the most expensive country in Europe to do anything.
That 3000 total in transport category jets with 1500 PIC will only give you a license restricted to UK registered aircraft.
No shortcuts available yet. You do the exams and pass your rides. I am sorry but there it is.
JJ
That 3000 total in transport category jets with 1500 PIC will only give you a license restricted to UK registered aircraft.
No shortcuts available yet. You do the exams and pass your rides. I am sorry but there it is.
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Yes, JJFlyer sums it up. By all means ask the aviation administration in the country of your choice, giving full details of your experience - but don't have too high hopes unless you can find a job on an N-reg aircraft.
I tried Sweden & UK after returing from the US & ended up doing all the UK exams & check rides. It was expensive & a lot of work, but I now fly for BA, so I'm not complaining. UK is expensive, but there are more jobs, so you have to make the choice.
I tried Sweden & UK after returing from the US & ended up doing all the UK exams & check rides. It was expensive & a lot of work, but I now fly for BA, so I'm not complaining. UK is expensive, but there are more jobs, so you have to make the choice.
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Not true about the UK costing more. I've done modular training in both Scandinavia and the UK and the UK wins hands down for speed and cost. There is a lot more choice over there too. The only thing that will cost you more are the CAA fees which take the p*ss but the training is cheaper and most schools are used to doing lots of conversions.
As an example to convert a FI rating from FAA to JAA here in Finland you must do the whole 30 hour course of flying regardless but in the UK you will get away with only 15 hours therefore half the cost even when you take the overpriced flight tests and license fees into consideration!
As an example to convert a FI rating from FAA to JAA here in Finland you must do the whole 30 hour course of flying regardless but in the UK you will get away with only 15 hours therefore half the cost even when you take the overpriced flight tests and license fees into consideration!
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I am not going to argue about those costs. I made a comparison basedamongst other things on my hours, type ratings, MPA time, cost of living, tickets and misc fees. Finland was and is cheaper for an experienced Airline pilot to 'convert' than UK.
Naturally I contacted CAA´s in both countries and asked what it was that was required by them.
UK does have more schools to choose from, quality varies from bad to excellent. After of a long period of indecision I eneded up going a totally different way about JAA ATPL.
JJ
Naturally I contacted CAA´s in both countries and asked what it was that was required by them.
UK does have more schools to choose from, quality varies from bad to excellent. After of a long period of indecision I eneded up going a totally different way about JAA ATPL.
JJ
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CAA= Civil Aviation Administration. It can be UK, Finnish, Icelandic or Swedish etc CAA that issues your license. Most likely a JAA CPL or ATPL. National licenses are still being issued by some countries, but to be able to use it to fly aircraft other than from teh sate of issue would require you to go through all sorts of hoops.
If you are trying to find a short cut, there is none. You need a JAA ticket to effectively be able to work in Europe or a few thousand hours in a JAR/FAR 25 aircraft (Transport Category) flying in multi pilot enviroment.
JJ
If you are trying to find a short cut, there is none. You need a JAA ticket to effectively be able to work in Europe or a few thousand hours in a JAR/FAR 25 aircraft (Transport Category) flying in multi pilot enviroment.
JJ
