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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11635283)
My post said they operated over Jordan, so maybe they were requested by Jordan to help them. So appears to be separate from Israel.
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Originally Posted by harrogate
(Post 11635303)
But Jordan has 60-odd F-16s. Would they really pull in the RAF to take out drones not even heading for their turf?
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Pedant on. Shooting down live munitions in flight is what they are for. What were they practising? Pedant off
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Originally Posted by harrogate
(Post 11635303)
But Jordan has 60-odd F-16s. Would they really pull in the RAF to take out drones not even heading for their turf?
* Choosing not to enforce sovereignty of airspace would be a option, but not a politically attractive one for the Jordanians. It could be judged tantamount to complicity. In this regard, the effectiveness of any fighter screen matters less than its visibility, hence no doubt the UK statement that its aircraft were involved. |
Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11635312)
Pedant on. Shooting down live munitions in flight is what they are for. What were they practising? Pedant off
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Originally Posted by harrogate
(Post 11635303)
But Jordan has 60-odd F-16s. Would they really pull in the RAF to take out drones not even heading for their turf?
All assumptions of course, and I guess we just have to have some confidence in the people calling the shots within our own respective governments; and hope that they are acting with less assumptions and with a view to restoring peace as quickly as possible. |
Iran clearly doesn't yet have a nuclear bomb, but a very small dirty nuke cooked off inside Israel would certainly signal intent...
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Originally Posted by harrogate
(Post 11635303)
But Jordan has 60-odd F-16s. Would they really pull in the RAF to take out drones not even heading for their turf?
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Both sides declaring victory, minimal damage & casualties, no reason to escalate surely?
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman
(Post 11635346)
My first thought would be the fine line Jordan walks in the ME. Directly involving themselves against Iran puts them firmly on one side, allowing the drones through their airspace unhindered puts them on the other. Allowing the RAF to do the work keeps them in the shady side of the politics in that part of the world.
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman
(Post 11635346)
My first thought would be the fine line Jordan walks in the ME. Directly involving themselves against Iran puts them firmly on one side, allowing the drones through their airspace unhindered puts them on the other. Allowing the RAF to do the work keeps them in the shady side of the politics in that part of the world.
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Given the consequences of not shooting them down and amount of desert below, I would think it was a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman
(Post 11635346)
My first thought would be the fine line Jordan walks in the ME. Directly involving themselves against Iran puts them firmly on one side, allowing the drones through their airspace unhindered puts them on the other. Allowing the RAF to do the work keeps them in the shady side of the politics in that part of the world.
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Originally Posted by arf23
(Post 11635341)
Iran clearly doesn't yet have a nuclear bomb, but a very small dirty nuke cooked off inside Israel would certainly signal intent...
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man
(Post 11635462)
I would support a Western liberal ally against an autocratic theocracy that openly and routinely calls for our death, every time
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Originally Posted by redsetter
(Post 11635477)
Israel is often referred to in the media as an ally of the UK. My definition of an ally would include shared military and political goals and also mutual military and political support. We clearly support Israel - politically in the UN and also on occasion militarily (see latest action). What I'm missing is how Israel supports the UK ? I'm not being sarcastic - a genuine question.
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Anyhow, best to sign off before I'm told to take it to JB.
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Originally Posted by melmothtw
(Post 11635578)
Anyhow, best to sign off before I'm told to take it to JB.
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Senior U.S. defense officials have now revealed that the Arleigh Burke-Class Guided-Missile Destroyers, USS Carney (DDG-64) and USS Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) were the two ships of the USN that were in the eastern Mediterranean and launched Standard Missile-3s (SM-3s) to down between 4 and 6 Iranian IRBMs last night over Israel.
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Jordanian Report picked up in Israel — King Abdullah’s daughter Salma involved in downing five Iranian UAVs.
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