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fitliker 24th December 2023 19:40

DW is reporting Iran has 1000 km anti -ship missiles and is threatening to close the Gibraltar straights .
Anyone have closed Mediterranean Sea on their WW3 Bingo card ?

ORAC 24th December 2023 20:56

First direct att k on US forces, which means the US is entitled to respond….

Worth noting this is the first time the American DoD has admitted a US warship was the intended target of a Houthi drone/missile attack. They have studiously avoided doing so in previous attacks.

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Lonewolf_50 25th December 2023 14:30

Merry Christmas from the :mad: Houti.
I think they need some airborne delivery of iron presents.

havoc 25th December 2023 16:23


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 11562171)
Merry Christmas from the :mad: Houti.
I think they need some airborne delivery of iron presents.


by pass the Houti and get done with the source Iran.

Ninthace 25th December 2023 16:48

Then watch the Straits of Hormuz close tight shut to shipping.

Lyneham Lad 25th December 2023 17:04

This afternoon in The Guardian.


Iran’s Revolutionary Guards say Israel “will pay” for killing one of its commanders, Iranian state TV reports

Reuters and Tasnim news agency said earlier that an airstrike killed Sayyed Razi Mousavi outside Syria’s capital, Damascus.

“Undoubtedly, the usurper and savage Zionist regime will pay for this crime,” Iran’s Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) said in a statement read on Iranian state TV.

Mousavi was an IRGC member responsible for coordinating the military alliance between Syria and Iran.

The IRGC described him as one of their oldest advisers in Syria, holding the rank of brigadier-general.

Iran’s state television reported that Mousavi had been “among those accompanying Qassem Soleimani”, the head of the Guards’ elite Quds Force, who had been killed in 2020 in a US drone attack in Iraq.

Jobza Guddun 25th December 2023 18:53


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11562205)
Then watch the Straits of Hormuz close tight shut to shipping.

Maybe it's long overdue the Emiratis dug a ship canal from Dubai to Fujairah to negate the requirement to transit the Straits of Hormuz! Not the complete solution but at least it'd undermine the Iranian grip in that area.

Asturias56 26th December 2023 08:10


Originally Posted by Jobza Guddun (Post 11562223)
Maybe it's long overdue the Emiratis dug a ship canal from Dubai to Fujairah to negate the requirement to transit the Straits of Hormuz! Not the complete solution but at least it'd undermine the Iranian grip in that area.

There are dangers in posting ideas without looking at a topo. map............... :p
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Asturias56 26th December 2023 08:12


Originally Posted by havoc (Post 11562198)
by pass the Houti and get done with the source Iran.

ever noticed how the calls for ACTION on here are inversely related to the distance from the region?

jolihokistix 26th December 2023 09:14

Iran must be jealous of Egypt's Suez income.

Perhaps she sees the western Indian Ocean as hers, free to lob kamikaze drones on unsuspecting shipping, and hoping to collect tolls somehow, by piracy boarding and detention if no other way.

Jobza Guddun 26th December 2023 09:28


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11562358)
There are dangers in posting ideas without looking at a topo.map............... :p

Very happy with the topo thanks...how's your CE? :p.

Asturias56 26th December 2023 09:33

That's a lot of mountains to move for a canal - and then you have to fill it with water - unless you put it through at Sea Level

And , of course, either end is easily attacked/disrupted................................................... ..

Jobza Guddun 26th December 2023 09:48

It certainly is, and there's enough wealth in those western Gulf nations to fund the solutions. There needs to be a long-term alternative as Iran will only get stronger and more aggressive.

Attacks/disruption - so are the Straits, but at least you move the playground 70-80 miles further away.

DogTailRed2 26th December 2023 12:21


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11562360)
ever noticed how the calls for ACTION on here are inversely related to the distance from the region?

Considering Iran is arming Russia. Russia is attacking Ukraine and Ukraine borders Europe I would say that's close enough.

Big Pistons Forever 26th December 2023 17:10

Iran is playing a dangerous game. Sooner or later one of its proxies are going to do something that can't be ignored and Iran is going to be in a position of guilt by association. It almost looks like the internal disfunction at the senior levels of the Iranian government has them sleep walking into catastrophe. Like the old saying goes, never ascribe malice to actions that can adequately be explained by mere incompetency....

tdracer 27th December 2023 02:15


Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever (Post 11562543)
It almost looks like the internal disfunction at the senior levels of the Iranian government has them sleep walking into catastrophe. Like the old saying goes, never ascribe malice to actions that can adequately be explained by mere incompetency....

Incompetency and malice are not mutually exclusive explanations.
But fully agree - eventually something is going to go pear shaped in a big way, and the consequences will be dire.

Asturias56 27th December 2023 11:09


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11562683)
Incompetency and malice are not mutually exclusive explanations.
But fully agree - eventually something is going to go pear shaped in a big way, and the consequences will be dire.

there was a long article in the Economist before Christmas saying the Mad Mullahs are talking big but are seriously worried. The Grand Ayatollah is old and unsteady and there's a lot of jostling as to who will replace him. Meanwhile their proxies are stirring up trouble left right and centre. interestingly a couple Iranian pronouncements on Israel/Gaza have been somewhat less incendiary than usual. They even seem to have been close to mentioning a 2 state solution. They've had some success in getting some of their oil cash paid and are in no mood to start a full on war with the USA.

Interesting times.................

Big Pistons Forever 27th December 2023 23:39


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11562817)
there was a long article in the Economist before Christmas saying the Mad Mullahs are talking big but are seriously worried. The Grand Ayatollah is old and unsteady and there's a lot of jostling as to who will replace him. Meanwhile their proxies are stirring up trouble left right and centre. interestingly a couple Iranian pronouncements on Israel/Gaza have been somewhat less incendiary than usual. They even seem to have been close to mentioning a 2 state solution. They've had some success in getting some of their oil cash paid and are in no mood to start a full on war with the USA.

Interesting times.................

Interesting times indeed. The 64 billion dollar question is just how much control does Iran actually have over the Houthi's ? The Houthi leadership certainly seem to be actively looking for trouble.....

Asturias56 28th December 2023 07:10

Well I've always said that Yemen is like Afghanistan - it's not a place were the normal rules have ever run - I think Iran has "influence" but no control - bit like China & NOK

chopper2004 28th December 2023 11:34

navy SH-3D / AS-61
 
Still going strong their SK fleet..

https://x.com/HelisDatabase/status/1...889749308?s=20

cheers


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