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ORAC 6th March 2026 15:33

I remember the days when the UK had a navy (and an Air Force and army..)


French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle just crossed the Gibraltar strait Its Carrier Strike Group is composed of 2 x French frigates, 1 x Spanish, 1 x Dutch, 1 x Italian, as well as a French submarine and a supply ship.

In the eastern Mediterranean, the french FREMM Languedoc is already positioned, while the PHA (helicopter carrier) Tonnerre left Toulon naval base for East-Med to help with the eventual evacuation of french citizens from Lebanon.

The French PHA Dixmude is in the Red Sea with the frigate Aconit, while another French frigate, Forbin is in the Bab El Mandeb Area.

Finally, the FREMM Provence is in the Arabian sea. We have then 11 French ships deployed to the Middle East, maybe 12 if we count a secret submarine that can be there... Literally half of the French navy !

Picture from Gibraltar from
@jr_amon_ceuta:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....aef2cc08a5.png



fdr 6th March 2026 15:48


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 12047755)
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U.S. officials tell CBS News that a total of three MQ-9 “Reaper” Surveillance and Attack Drones with the U.S. Air Force have been downed so far during Operation Epic Fury.

It's not clear where exactly the three drones crashed, but one of the Reapers attempted to crash off the coast of Iran, while another is believed to have been shot down during a “friendly fire” incident by Qatar.

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I'm curious, ORAC, did CBS intimate that the MQ-9 was successful in its attempts to crash off the coast of Iran? It would be such a disappointment to the owner and operator that there attempts were in vain. Would it be appropriate to send a condolence card if they were unsuccessful, or, congratulations where they might have achieved their desire to crash...

:)​​​​​​​

Winemaker 6th March 2026 16:06

President Trump on Friday demanded “unconditional surrender” by Iran, saying there would be no negotiated end to the war.

ORAC 6th March 2026 16:07


​​​​​​​The UAE-flagged tug Mussafah 2 was struck by two missiles while attempting to assist the abandoned container ship Safeen Prestige in the Strait of Hormuz.

The attack occurred about 18 nm off Khasab. The entire crew of the tug, believed to be around eight people, was killed.

Safeen Prestige has been adrift since 4th of March after it was struck above the waterline.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2e98899496.png
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TURIN 6th March 2026 16:13

Something big going on. FR24 showing 3 KC135 tankers have been orbiting off the coast of Kuwait and another 4 or 5 heading up through Jordan.
😞

ORAC 6th March 2026 16:23


Something big going on. FR24 showing 3 KC135 tankers have been orbiting off the coast of Kuwait and another 4 or 5 heading up through Jordan.
Not sure it's larger than previous waves supporting FJ waves, just more visible. As mentioned above there sees to have been a policy change to be more visible - perhaps because they don't see any Iranian air force threat.


​​​​​​​Large wave of tankers and undoubtedly fighters/strike aircraft with or near them. Passing north of Al-Jubail, KSA.

KC-135R 62-3498 #AE07B4
KC-135R 62-3518 #AE04A3
KC-135R 57-1461 #AE04DC
KC-135R 59-1495 #AE0500
KC-135R 58-0109 #AE04E0

Screenshot from 50 minutes ago.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dfdc305e01.png
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RAFEngO74to09 6th March 2026 16:25

B-1Bs arriving at RAF Fairford shortly.

Weapons arriving by road today - presumably from RAF Welford.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2026/03...2811604529.jpg

Geriaviator 6th March 2026 16:27


there sees to have been a policy change to be more visible - perhaps because they don't see any Iranian air force threat.
Or maybe they want to show their identity to their Gulf allies in case of another blue-on-blue :eek:​​​​​​​





pasta 6th March 2026 16:44


Originally Posted by Winemaker (Post 12047961)
President Trump on Friday demanded “unconditional surrender” by Iran, saying there would be no negotiated end to the war.

I'm not sure Iran would have much of an appetite for negotiating with the US anyway, given what happened last time they tried it.

Geriaviator 6th March 2026 16:45

Is the UK to be thrown out of Cyprus next? Britain's pathetic response to the Iranian attacks on the island has caused great annoyance to its government. Cypriot foreign minister Constantinos Kombos says there needs to be a "conversation" about removing the UK's two RAF bases in Cyprus after a drone strike on RAF Akrotiri on Sunday. Mr Kombos told BBC Newsnight that the Cypriots’ “displeasure” was made clear both before and after the drone strike on Sunday, which hit a hangar usually occupied by US spy planes.

He said: “Right now we have the British bases on the island. There are questions. There are issues. There are concerns. Our displeasure was shared leading up to the incident and immediately afterwards. We are now focusing on the current situation and how we can manage the crisis. And there will be, of course, a reflection as to lessons learnt and issues that are of serious concern after the crisis.”

Ninthace 6th March 2026 16:51


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 12047900)
Which you swallowed. FWIW, when I was in the Navy, we did a great many port visits and multinational exercises. We never downloaded armaments before so doing, indeed, quite the opposite. We filled the magazines before deployments, long or short, began our operations, and only downloaded ammo{*} when we got back home after deployment was over and the ship/crew were to go into the refit/reman/restore cycle.
While I don't know for a fact that the Iranians have the same approach to deployments away from home station, I suspect that it is similar.
Why?
If you get a signal from Fleet HQ for emergent tasking, you need to have the tools on hand to get your various missions done.

{*} The special case of Sixth Fleet deployments from Second Fleet, to the Med, was an exception. We'd have a partial load in transit, get topped off as we InChopped into the Med (from the ship that we were relieving), and then we'd in turn pass along the 'top up' to whomever relieved us as we OutChopped from Sixth Fleet. My helicopter experiences included carrying pallet-loads of ammo from one ship to another during such cross-decking...we managed to do it without mishap .
Wonder no longer.
1. The enemy shoots back. Sometimes they hit what they are aiming at.
2. Coalition warfare has its own unique challenges with command and control, and airspace coordination.
The risks of blue-on-blue are increased as more parties are added to the mix. In this case it should surprise nobody that a few cases have cropped up. Disappointing, to be sure, but not wholly unexpected.
Fog of War: that phrase was coined for a good and sufficient reason.

Why do you think I swallowed it? I was asked for an example of what was being said and I provided it. If you read what I posted dispassionately, you will see I referred to reports and allegations. At no point did I even suggest they were true. For your information, I also did sea time and we did not always go to sea with a full war load or anything like, especially on exercise. You know as well as I do that forces exercise with blank or dummy munitions. I was reporting what was being claimed.

fitliker 6th March 2026 16:53

Fairly certain the Turkish airforce would love to have those bases . Provided they were able to collect jizra taxes from the locals .

langleybaston 6th March 2026 16:57


Originally Posted by Geriaviator (Post 12047985)
Is the UK to be thrown out of Cyprus next? Britain's pathetic response to the Iranian attacks on the island has caused great annoyance to its government. Cypriot foreign minister Constantinos Kombos says there needs to be a "conversation" about removing the UK's two RAF bases in Cyprus after a drone strike on RAF Akrotiri on Sunday. Mr Kombos told BBC Newsnight that the Cypriots’ “displeasure” was made clear both before and after the drone strike on Sunday, which hit a hangar usually occupied by US spy planes.

He said: “Right now we have the British bases on the island. There are questions. There are issues. There are concerns. Our displeasure was shared leading up to the incident and immediately afterwards. We are now focusing on the current situation and how we can manage the crisis. And there will be, of course, a reflection as to lessons learnt and issues that are of serious concern after the crisis.”

The BBC refer to two SBAs, Akrotiri and Dhekalia [my son born in the latter]. However, are there not three?

Ninthace 6th March 2026 17:00


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 12047992)
The BBC refer to two SBAs, Akrotiri and Dhekalia [my son born in the latter]. However, are there not three?

What would the third be? The internet only seems to return two.

212man 6th March 2026 17:01


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 12047992)
The BBC refer to two SBAs, Akrotiri and Dhekalia [my son born in the latter]. However, are there not three?

Do you mean Episkopi? It’s in the Akrotiri one.

West Coast 6th March 2026 17:05


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 12047989)
Why do you think I swallowed it? I was asked for an example of what was being said and I provided it. If you read what I posted dispassionately, you will see I referred to reports and allegations. At no point did I even suggest they were true. For your information, I also did sea time and we did not always go to sea with a full war load or anything like, especially on exercise. You know as well as I do that forces exercise with blank or dummy munitions. I was reporting what was being claimed.

I value your input here but the big kahuna mod has made it clear this tangent won’t fly. Let’s move on, take that advice as you see fit.

Ninthace 6th March 2026 17:09


Originally Posted by West Coast (Post 12047999)
I value your input here but the big kahuna mod has made it clear this tangent won’t fly. Let’s move on, take that advice as you see fit.

I am not trying to fly it. It is something that has been alleged, and not by me.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/India...an/ar-AA1XDDRP

langleybaston 6th March 2026 17:09


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 12047995)
Do you mean Episkopi? It’s in the Akrotiri one.

Troodos station.

Bob Viking 6th March 2026 17:10

Collateral damage
 
Iranian schools, hospital and landmarks among civilian sites hit during US-Israeli strikes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpw004xqxnjo

It would really help the US/Israel cause if they were to be a little more careful what they destroyed.

BV

Lonewolf_50 6th March 2026 17:12


Originally Posted by West Coast (Post 12047999)
I value your input here but the big kahuna mod has made it clear this tangent won’t fly. Let’s move on, take that advice as you see fit.

Apology to both you and Ninthace, and to SP.
I'll let it go.

Originally Posted by Winemaker (Post 12047961)
President Trump on Friday demanded “unconditional surrender” by Iran, saying there would be no negotiated end to the war.

I posted this on JB, but the Iraqi Foreign Minister indicated that there was no room for negotiations, so at least the two sides agree on something. :p

Araghchi told NBC News on Thursday that Tehran is ready for a potential U.S. ground invasion, though there is no sign that the United States is currently planning such an operation. According to Araghchi, Iran has not asked for a cease-fire deal and refuses to negotiate with Washington.
“The fact is that we don’t have any positive experience of negotiating with the United States, you know, especially with this administration,” Araghchi said. “We negotiated twice last year and this year, and then in the middle of negotiations, they attacked us.”
The shooting will continue until someone gets tired of it, I guess.


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