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VinRouge 18th November 2012 07:15

Good news, keeping fingers crossed.

sprucemoose 19th November 2012 14:08

No, VinRouge, they are resuming the reliability test, not restarting it. While some parts of the work covered in the previously completed 160 aircraft flight hours might need to be covered again, they don't have to repeat the entire process.

Algy 20th November 2012 11:54

First three production A400Ms
 
The final assembly line actually looking like, well, a final assembly line

GreenKnight121 20th November 2012 21:29

Interesting... thread shows a "page 11" with "posts 201-203", but won't let me access page 11. Lets see if this gets me in.

{edit: well, it says this is post #201. Fun.)

keesje 20th November 2012 22:16

For folks that like high definition: first three production A400M's on the production line, for delivery next year.

http://www.sldinfo.com/wp-content/up...er-20-2012.jpg

haltonapp 20th November 2012 22:37

It must be siesta time, not a soul in sight in the photo link in the previous post!

Genstabler 21st November 2012 09:36

Look again. It's the scale.

VX275 21st November 2012 11:06

There's a person walking alongside the rear wall, possibly two more at the top of the fin of the far aeroplane and the ghost of someone by 0008's No3 engine (Obviously a visiting foreign engineer who moved too fast for the camera shutter). Siesta time it is.

green granite 21st November 2012 11:38

I make it 12 people in that picture.

keesje 21st November 2012 15:09

green granite,

9-10 in the lane in the back,
3 close to the nose of msn 9,
1 making a call under its wing,
1 in the office under the msn 9 wingtip
3 guys working the tail of msn 10(?)

and a few maybe's.

At least 17 :8

;)

GreenKnight121 21st November 2012 23:51

So a full work-shift then!

:E

TEEEJ 23rd November 2012 17:37

Nice to see an A400 over Lincolnshire, yesterday. Routed over Coningsby and Cranwell. :ok:

glad rag 23rd November 2012 21:51

Wot no flying carpets? BORING



Seriously though, nice set up with the staging.

Ah happy [mostly] memories of Toulouse indeed.

zero1 24th November 2012 18:10

I see the French are on yet another tea break... No engineers around or are they hiding inside the aircraft...

Nice picture...:ok:

Green Flash 24th November 2012 19:35

TEEEJ - it got as far as Lossiemouth too!

TurningFinals 24th November 2012 21:09

Was nice to see it up at Lossiemouth.

Algy 26th November 2012 08:44

The A400M FAL is in Seville.

glad rag 27th November 2012 18:04

Yep.












;)

keesje 10th December 2012 10:11

A400M completes F&R flight-test phase
 

The F&R testing was completed in just 32 days, during which the aircraft made 52 flights and visited 10 different airfields. Data from the F&R programme, which was performed entirely using the first production-representative aircraft – MSN6 / Grizzly 5 – is now being examined by the civil and military certification authorities for the A400M – respectively EASA and a committee appointed by OCCAR.

http://www.airteamimages.com/pics/160/160113_800.jpg

Having received the restricted Type Certification begin May this year, this phase of the flight test programme was the last major requirement prior to full Type Certification. It is expected that the aircraft will receive the full civil Type Certificate and military Initial Operating Capability in the first quarter of 2013 subject to the approval of the relevant authorities.

Airbus Military A400M completes critical flight-test phase - Airbus Military

dragartist 1st January 2013 15:05

forthcomming lectures
 

Some of you may beinterested in the forthcoming RAeS A400M lectures. 9th Jan atBedford ARA and 7th Feb Ed Strongman (test Pilot) at Cambridge. Thisis our Sir Arthur Marshall named lecture at Downing Coll and if last year isanything to go by it will be standing room only.

Come and find out thereal story. I can’t stand the BS on here particularly about 02 certificationand Certification generally. We had AvP 970 which became Def Stan 00-970 withclear guidance and pass/fail, go/no go criteria. These days things are moreflexible and tailored.

I know the C&Qteam have worked hard with other nations and stood up to airbus on occasion. Afew things are certain: the T&E will be over budget. (Q2 will see to thateven thought they are embedded in the Combined Trials Team they will advise theIPT not to accept advice from other nations T&E organisations. – I hope theIPT stand up to them)

The aircraft will be astep change in capability over the C130.

The x locks in the CHSwill never meet the 10 to the minus 9 criteria but I am no longer the poorbugger that has to recommend that bit is signed up.
I am looking forward to seeing it in UK servicebut we will never have enough of them. Just hope that when the time comes wecan afford it.

Algy 4th March 2013 08:19

BBC report of A400M at Brize Norton
 
Here's the BBC take on the visit to BZN on Friday 1 March. BBC News - Taking to the skies on RAF's new transport plane

ian16th 4th March 2013 09:45

Airbus Military's A400M aircraft is poised to take off - Telegraph

Also in today's Torygraph!

It appears that someone has pushed the 'publicity' button.

Dysonsphere 4th March 2013 12:00

Remind me what was the orignal in service date.

ORAC 5th March 2013 20:51

Defense news: Joint Venture To Train RAF Crews on Atlas A400M

LONDON — Royal Air Force crews set to fly the new Atlas A400M airlifter are to be trained by a joint venture company set up by Airbus Military and Thales UK. The deal is contracted to run for 18 years at a cost of 226 million pounds ($340 million), the joint venture company, known as A400M Training Services, announced Monday.

Separately, the Ministry of Defence revealed it is spending 80 million pounds to modify the Atlas aircraft so it can be fitted with a large aircraft infrared countermeasures system.

The training facility being built at the Brize Norton home of the RAF’s airlifter and inflight refueling fleets is scheduled to be completed in spring 2014, just ahead of the delivery date of the first A400M to the RAF. Air crew and ground maintenance and support personnel will be trained at the Atlas facility using Thales-supplied simulators and other synthetic systems. Thales secured the simulator supply deal in 2007 following a competition.

RAF personnel are already being trained at an Airbus training facility alongside the Seville, Spain, assembly base for the aircraft

Trumpet_trousers 6th March 2013 17:43

MSN7 First flight
 
First production Airbus Military A400M makes maiden flight - Airbus Military

Just returned, nice to get a FF under my belt! :D

Courtney Mil 6th March 2013 17:58

Good for you! Can you tell us more? :ok:

BEagle 6th March 2013 18:51

Hey TT - good to hear from you! Great news that the first production aircraft has made its maiden flight...:ok:

I'll bet you're glad I poached you from 99 and started you off on your civvy career - you wouldn't have had so much fun in what's left of the RAF!

It was good to see you at F'boro last year - despite the pi$$ing bŁoody rain!

Trumpet_trousers 6th March 2013 18:58

CM and Beagle, not much more to say really, the PR sums it up nicely, apart from which, I have to whizz off for the celebration dinner in town! :ok:

flugholm 7th March 2013 08:48

Shades of grey
 
Slightly different shade of grey on MSN 7. "Merde gris" is what someone called it on another discussion board. :=

flugholm 13th March 2013 11:02

Type Certificate
 
EASA Type Certificate EASA.A.169 was received today.
http://www.easa.europa.eu/certificat...3-13032013.pdf
:ok:

Courtney Mil 13th March 2013 11:17

For some reason I just read the certificate. Why?

I did notice something interesting, though.

It describes the aircraft as


Four turbo-propeller engines, medium range tactical transport aeroplane, large aeroplane category.
And goes on to define


18. Minimum Flight Crew
Two (2): Pilot and co-pilot
However, we then find that


19. Maximum Seating Capacity
No other occupants apart of the minimum flight crew are allowed on board

20. Baggage/ Cargo Compartment
No loads shall be carried in the cargo compartment
Transport aircraft aren't what they used to be, are they? :cool:

theboywide 13th March 2013 12:40

This must be the restricted type certification with full to come.
I didn't look in any great detail but this only clears up to 31000ft when the ac operates up to at least 37000ft.

flugholm 13th March 2013 13:00

theboywide wrote:
>This must be the restricted type certification with full to come.

No, the RTC was already issued April 30th, 2012.

GreenKnight121 13th March 2013 14:57

So you are claiming that this, which forbids carrying any passengers or cargo, is the full type certification?

For a gawddam cargo plane?

kbrockman 13th March 2013 16:01

MTOW is also almost 20,000lbs below original spec (132T iso 141T) which gives limited room for cargo and pax at all, certainly when you look at the
Max Landing Weight of 117.7T(originally122T) and empty weight of 77T,
with full fuel that would make 127T and thus only room for 5T of Cargo.

Temporary restricted type certification, I would like to think.

Courtney Mil 13th March 2013 16:05

You reckon? Either that or it's a hell of a big beast just to transport two pilots around the world. Not even a hostie. :eek:

John Farley 13th March 2013 19:00

There may be some confusion here between the stage the aircraft has reached with respect to its civil as opposed to its military certification.

keesje 13th March 2013 20:22

Pretty normal in militairy programs.

Futher testing, analyses will lead to expanded capability approvals and the final operating configuration.

This aircraft will go through the qualifications of a passenger transport on civil airways, tactical transport on soft short runways at night, tanker for jets and helicopters, receiver. Mountains of certfication and paperwork..

Airbus Military's A400M: in pictures - Telegraph

keesje 16th March 2013 01:17

No tanker role for UK A400Ms
 

The UK has no requirement to use its future fleet of Airbus Military A400M Atlas tactical transports in a secondary tanker role, minister for defence equipment, support and technology Philip Dunne has confirmed.
http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/G...x?ItemID=49856

No tanker role for UK A400Ms

But:


The A400M will be delivered with an in-built tanker capability, with some nations expected to acquire hose-and-drogue refuelling pods and/or hose drum units to provide an in-flight refuelling capability to support fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters.
So if the Brits change their minds in say 3 years they can still order kits.

BEagle 16th March 2013 07:48


The UK has no requirement to use its future fleet of Airbus Military A400M Atlas tactical transports in a secondary tanker role, minister for defence equipment, support and technology Philip Dunne has confirmed.
So, nothing to do with the AirTanker contract then.....:rolleyes:

I guess the UK has no plans to refuel helicopters?


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