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Denzil 5th February 2007 20:20

All the spares you need are just down the road, plenty of L1011's at Victorville, just take your spanners & help yourself!!!!!!

As mentioned it's the joy of operating an aircraft that has been retired from airline service. Going back a few years you could get L1011 parts easily (recall a NLG retract actuator on loan from Saudia just after GW1 & a battery charger that they forgot to give back to Air Canada!!!!).

brit bus driver 5th February 2007 20:49

Get the spares from down the road...wash your mouth out. We have a perfectly good supply chain to facilitate your every need. That is why I spent a week in Vegas myself (albeit many moons ago) awaiting an ACS computer when Mr DHL could probably have got it there next day. Let the record show that we did not enjoy ourselves...not even once.
:hmm:

As for BTFF's comments...they do not surprise me in the slightest. I just hope I never end up with his cup of tea instead of mine...:yuk:

14greens 5th February 2007 20:58

would put money on BTFF being happy enough with the trimotor when he is halfway between the East coast and Lajes and he needs his fuel, or will he still loathe it then as he put it?
And bet he is not slagging off the NCA on the same trail when after the trail sector the Crew of the tanker, especially the ALM goes out of his/her way to make sure that they are fed and looked after as much as possible

and of course the crew down the strip in vegas are so proud of themsleves being able to generate that snag to get em a few days off

real sod, I was going to go on that trip as well damn!!!

wind yr neck in BTFF you have made an ar*! of yrself

Oiy 5th February 2007 21:31

I'm Back
 
At last, after much faffing I can now post again.:\
(New user name same old me)

It seems that whatever we do nowadays someone always finds the time to incorrectly inform others about what they think we have done.......ahem...:=

Now us knockers on the crew have had our cry (See Chumbly) we can get on with the task in hand.

What time is "Managers Hour".:ok:

ps. I love VC10's They are Great Too.
pps. 14 Greens....see you next week.

:D

wg13_dummy 5th February 2007 21:43

Quite funny watching crabs stitch each other up on this thread. No, quite sad actually.


Just a quickie to Xavier Onassis;


Sqn Duty Exec

Det Exec

Are they Neu Management speak for Sqn Duty Officer and Det Comd? All sounds very American Corporate speil to me.



BTFF, you are clearly not the brightest bulb on the CWP are you?

I'll bet it would be harder to find a Hippo in a tu-tu trying to enter an Elephants only club than discover your real identity.

brit bus driver 5th February 2007 21:50

Well, been DEX (Duty Exec) for as long as I can remember on 216...and that's a mighty long time! As in there is the boss and his "executive": the 4 (5) flt cdrs.

Glad to see the Embassy Suites (I assume) providing superb vfm!:}

wg13_dummy 5th February 2007 21:54

:D

Nice one ratty.



So why not call them Flt Comds? Or is it a way of 'bigging' the position up?


No doubt in the RAF, a Flt Comd...sorry 'Exec' would be a Gp Capt or some such.

1000CC'soffun 5th February 2007 22:29

Familar....Think so.
 
Ratty, I think I have seen him, although he may well have had a red skirt on.

Nice one BTFF Just perusing the site after months away, and what do I find, a laughable post from a laughable character.

Born to Fly Faster.....................Don't Think so, :bored:
Born To Fly Fastjets.....I doubt that, I always assumed they were intelligent, genuine, kind and carefree fellows......(Incoming again)

I think you may just be one of the passengers who flew in on that Tristar or another one recently, have absolutely no idea of how large, old AT aircraft are programmed or operated, have a more than generous chip on ones shoulder about aircrew in general and to cap it all, judging by your recent lack of input to your thread.....No B******s (Although you do talk a lot of it)

Stay away from our trainset until you have grown up enough to either apologise or reply with an educated answer :oh:



................Just my penneth (read opinion) that is.

brit bus driver 5th February 2007 22:38

Isn't the DOB Cdr on RF a seasoned ME operator at the moment? A parade, witch hunt and public flogging I say!:}

clicker 6th February 2007 01:38

Anorak Mode = On

First Flights

Timmys
ZD948 16-Oct-1978
ZD949 10-Jan-1979
ZD950 08-Apr-1979
ZD951 01-May-1979
ZD952 10-Jul-1979
ZD953 22-Apr-1980
ZE704 10-Jun-1980
ZE705 16-Jun-1980
ZE706 16-Jan-1980

FunBuses
XR807 25-Mar-1966
XV101 11-Jan-1967
XV102 05-May-1967
XV104 14-Jul-1967
XV105 03-Oct-1967
XV106 17-Nov-1967
XV107 22-Mar-1968
XV108 07-Jun-1968
XV109 18-Jul-1968
ZA147 12-Oct-1966
ZA148 21-Mar-1967
ZA149 31-Mar-1969
ZA150 16-Feb-1970
ZD242 20-Nov-1968

Anorak Mode = Off

BTFF, you may have noticed that all of these aircraft started life before you did. So have you never had a problem that kept you from school for a few days? (I doubt if that would apply to your working days as it appears the nappies are still being worn)

Also theres a saying that is rarely heard nowadays

"Respect your elders", these jets have seen more life than you think.

clicker

Slotback 6th February 2007 09:00

As someone who was was involved in the trail across the pond from the northern Tornado base last month I would just like to show my appreciation for the Tristar, VC-10 and Herc crews that supported us.

Nothing but professionalism shown throughout, evident from the long hours the ARCC put in to rewrite the ever changing plan right through to the ALM having hot food ready at the other end.

It is such a shame that some spotty youth with no concept of the RAF can stir up such a fuss over nothing. God forbid a fast jet should go u/s. We all have jobs to do and the vast majority of us get on with the task at hand, overcoming many hurdles, to succeed.

BTFF probably, almost certainly given the FJ sqns out at Nellis, comes from arguably the least stretched force in the air force, I know I'm on that force too. No wonder he has time to commit to ideal and damaging speculation. Shouldn't you be planning a mission or something anyway BTFF.

BTFF please shut up and stop making us all look like dicks in front of people who put their lives on the line alot more often than you do!!

MrBernoulli 6th February 2007 12:24

Quote from BTFF

"Doh...
I Shouldn't of bothered."

Shouldn't OF bothered? Shows something of your education level I think. Go back and check your written English qualifications, you might find they're faked.

Sideshow Bob 6th February 2007 15:20

Quote "I have never heard of a Tri * going u/s whilst recovering troops from Ops. However, that may be because the DAS circuit breaker has been pulled so a charter crew have to take their Ops routes instead, leaving 216 to remain a peace loving Sqn"

Grabbers
You seem to have forgotten to mention that the Tri* had already left with the charter passengers, due to the charter jet being stuck, as the charter company completely messed up their own route and did not have a rested crew to fly the jet home. By the way the charter did not fly the ops route just it's normal home route with the Tri* passengers.

FFP 6th February 2007 15:31

Wonder how one of current Sqns in RF got out there ?!?!??!?!
Any complaints regarding the flight out ?!?!?!
(Said very tongue in cheek waiting to see if someone's going to spill the beans on this one.......:ok: ;) )

1000CC'soffun 6th February 2007 16:35

Next Trail
 
Aha

Seems like the next Trail Tri* and crew(s) are shortly to land in Nevada.:)

BTFF are you planning to fly home with/in the said aircraft, or are you planning to fly back at personal cost with Richard Branson's lot?:cool:

Interesting to see what happens next methinks!:p

Doctor Cruces 6th February 2007 17:03

Hay Beags,

Trouble is, by the time w get the A330s they will be 30 yrs old too at this rate!!

Doc C
:)

Roadster280 6th February 2007 19:55

Drove by McCarran this morning on my travels, and saw what certainly looked like a VC10 there.

brit bus driver 6th February 2007 20:51

Slotback....wise words fella.

Finrider 6th February 2007 22:37

As someone, I believe, that was on the other FJ Sqn at that period of RF, I would like to echo Slotback's remarks. I met nothing but helpful professionalism from the AT crews. The Tri* is still a capable aircraft, one took six of us from Lajes to Bangor...I was certainly grateful for my fuel mid Atlantic!

petop 12th February 2007 12:23

Ref earlier poster on free steaks etc on a stopover....you were lucky...i was on a flight in a Herc to Nairobi, stop-over in Akrotiri, no worries but then the pilot/co-pilot (cant remember which, in 93) decides to break a leg and we are stuck for another 24hrs.
Whats the problem you say...well in the next 24hrs 2 Companys of Paras are due for a stopover from jungle training in Brunei....2 months under the jungle, no alcohol and accomadated in the same transit block as us. Needless to say we didnt get sleep that night!! Took turns holding the door shut!:ugh:


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