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The Swinging Monkey 4th February 2007 20:45

BTFF,

"Arrgh NCA again..."

It is sad that idiots like you make such unneccesary and irresponsible comments about NCA, you are obviously a fool Sir.

Let me just give you one incy-wincy little bit of advice, and education about NCA. When that fast pointy little thing that you fly goes tits-up, and all the lights are flashing and all the horns are going off, and you are thinking about that good old Martin baker let down. Just remember, when you are bobbing around in the oggin, trying to get in your dinghy, and pukin up everywhere, guess who will be putting his neck on the line to save your scrawny little arse? - Yep, it will almost certainly be NCA!
Just think about that, jerk

Kind regards to all, especially my dear old friends from the SAR world.

TSM

chumbleywarner 4th February 2007 21:21

TriStar Crew Reply
 
Here we have the Captain, Eng and ALM from the tristar.

Now then...........muppet

Yes I did dispatch with a minor fuel problem, well within the DDM. However when my engineers had finished the re-fuel a pipe blew dumping about 3 tonnes of fuel on the pan and inside the aircraft, a major major problem. We have had to wait for spares from the uk, and also my engineering team have had to mop up the excess fuel within the aircraft. As for my passengers they got pushed onto the C-17 whose loadie went sick and thus got further delayed. My apologies to those involved.

As we are flying in old aircraft they do tend to break a little more than usual, this has nothing to do with the crew and thus should not be to blame. Don't shoot the messenger and all that.

As for BorntoFlyfasts' comments, as you are only 24 you've obviously only just qualified out of nappies and should be careful what you post. You are ill informed, and please take up my Sqn executive's offer if you are brave enough.

From the knockers on my crew, please don't knock us as we are highly sensitive and may cry.:ok:

chumbleywarner 4th February 2007 21:27

Thanks Ratty

It was an interesting post, and has killed a bit of time while sitting in Vegas. Must go the knockers want to play poker.:D

The Swinging Monkey 4th February 2007 21:37

chumbleywarner,

Well said old boy, but I too don't think that this BTFF (born too f***ing foolish) deserved your explanation.

I hope that you are enjoying a few days down the strip, instead of the usual sand-pit places you end up in, you deserve a change of view!

Well done guys, hope the jet gets fixed (fairly) soon, otherwise you'll run out of rates down on the strip!!

Kind regards
TSM

Two's in 4th February 2007 22:24

Chumbley,

Found myself stuck at Nellis for a non-aviation reason the other week, rented a car and popped over to Death Valley - cracking way to kill 6 hours, make a serious contribution to global warming, and there's only two turns in 180 miles, so even a Tristar crew could find it. While you're there (in the Valley), you might even think of some suitable ideas for what to do with a mouthy sprog.

TI

Doctor Cruces 4th February 2007 22:52

Here here, slagging does no good.
On the other hand, whilst working in LYE Ops, I do recall a crew carrying a defect all round the Pacific. All of a sudden, and purely co-incidental with arriving in the city where the Commonwealth Games were being held in NZ (can't remember which, age induced!) it became ,sadly, impossible to carry on. Arrived there just as the games started and spares arrived just as they finished.
Coincidence of course.
:) :) :)
Doc C

fergineer 5th February 2007 01:55

Chumbly, Obviously sent the co-pilot to get the drinks from the bar......Have a good stay and dont let t...ers get too you. Had a similar problem on one of the Cale jets so know what its like except we had 393 holiday pax moaning at us. Doc C now that would never happen surely!!!!! And NZ is such a nasty palce to go tech in thats why I now live here. All the best.

D-IFF_ident 5th February 2007 06:07

Chumbly,

I think we might have won Top Dog together...

Good luck on getting home - sounds like it's gonna be a right b***s ache for you. Be interesting to see if this thread gets referenced at a later date.

Hope Nige found you somewhere nice to stay at least. ;)

A and C 5th February 2007 07:56

Not a very good airline !
 
Looking around Brize Norton I could be mistaken that it was part of Duxford's old airliner collection, Having worked some of the transport assets when I was an engineer for BA I can tell you that the aircraft were getting on a bit 20 years ago.

I have the upmost respect for the people who maintain and fly these very old aircraft and keep them flying but dispite the efforts of these people the serviceabilty rate would bankrupt an airline within weeks.

The bottom line is that these aircraft should be replaced now but I suspect that on the goverment list of what to spend my taxes on the transport fleet is well south of a number of trendy social programs.

BEagle 5th February 2007 08:18

Such an ailrine wouldn't go bankrupt at all, A and C.






It would have had its Air Operators Certificate pulled long before it got to that stage.

Good luck to all those operating and maintaining those venerable old museum pieces - hope you get your A330s this decade....:hmm:

"This programme will NOT slip" - FSTA civil serpent circa 2001...:mad:

mutleyfour 5th February 2007 08:30

Just a shame that Born to Fly faster wasn't actually born to think faster! :}

ProfessionalStudent 5th February 2007 08:53

If they find out his true identity, he may wish he was Born To RUN Faster.:}

Had Enough 77 5th February 2007 12:19

No Need For That BTFF
 
Me thinks BTFF has become Born to run away and hide under a large rock. What was he thinking, mind you he probably wasn't really thinking.:ugh:

FJJP 5th February 2007 15:48

I note that he does not have the b*lls or courage to come back and apologise. I have eaten humble pie in the past and found that by doing so gets you recognised as not such a bad bloke after all...

[hint hint]

FE Hoppy 5th February 2007 16:11

Funny, I went t:ts in Vegas about 11 years ago with a fuel leak! Probably the same jet. We got a similar reaction from the pointy people then.

Guess some things never change.:ugh:

KENNYR 5th February 2007 16:19

To the crew of the Herkybird that went tits in Greenland back in the 80's.......Thankyou....The steaks and beer compliments of the skipper were very much appreciated.

To the crew of the Herkybird that went tits in the states in 80something, thanks very much....the porterhouse steaks and beers on your account (+the trip to the Casino).......very much appreciated indeed.

My point is.............if the aircraft goes tits up, no matter where or how or what.....make the most of it and dont bellyache. BTFF.......have you no sense of humour or love of life during stopovers.......planned or not planned?
Get a life my young friend.

Keep up the good work boys and girls of the AT Fleet.....keep bringing our guys/gals back from dangerous places in one piece.

Ken Scott 5th February 2007 16:57

I've done route support on several trails where the jets have gone u/s & delayed us for considerable periods - I don't recall much complaining from the AT & AAR chaps, & certainly no posts on here!

I was also on the Typhoon trail to Singapore a few years ago, where we got as far as Akrotiri & they had to send back to the UK for another jet. To make up for the delay we pushed on to Singapore on min ground time everywhere. Later saw an article on the trip in that fine publication, Air Force Monthly, which claimed that the trail only arrived late because one of the C130Js went u/s - ungrateful b*****ds!

splitbrain 5th February 2007 17:39


Originally Posted by "FE Hoppy"
Funny, I went t:ts in Vegas about 11 years ago with a fuel leak! Probably the same jet. We got a similar reaction from the pointy people then.


Ahhh, thats because you were West of the imaginary 'Credibility Line', a new line of longitude on the aviation map beyond which all unserviceabilities are treated with a certain degree of suspicion :}

Comp Charlie 5th February 2007 19:25

BTFF is obviously an amateur at all this...not once in his post was there a mention of us Movers being responsible for the U/S Tristar.

Quite blatantly a new poster on here otherwise he would know the golden rule of blaming us first for everything.

What a wally though isn't he?

CC

AT Mov 5th February 2007 19:41

There you go blowing it, I was resisting pointing that obvious error out!


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