Flying is the job of a blu-tack cpl! Aircrew can't be that elite, in that case, can they?

Oh really.......................must tell that to the RM, Paras and all and sundry

If you read orders it states that flying clothing should only be worn when you are expected to "Fly" if you are on ground duties that day or are defo not flying then you should be in blues!
Funny how few Aircrew you see in blues when they definately haven't been or are going to be flying that day.
And as for the beret vs chip/(****) hat lets not even go there, it's uniform it's not meant to be trendy and if you hadn't noticed the chwat hat looks like shyte!!!!

5 Sqn fellas wear them all day every day. And they are on a sqn with no aircraft!!

cost to train pilot? - cost to train sparky?

How long to train each to do the others job?

Which has the tougher selection process?

Wings should be worn whenever circumstances permit. IMHO They've earnt them

Just found the blunties version:

ATC - Talk, eat, talk, drink, talk, eat, talk...
Groundcrew - Steps out, CAT 4 A/C, steps away
Admin - INTENTIONALLY BLANK

It's all about image for aircrew, they love parading about in flying suits thinking they are something special.
What is the big deal with the brevets since they changed to generic Wsop? a load of the engineers went harpic and wanted to only wear the old "E" brevet same with the Alms! Nobody is going to forget what job you do on the plane cos you have RAF below your wing instead of Alm or E.
Image!!!!

What branch might you be then toddbabe? Let me guess...admin?

Can we get this back into some perspective. People of all 3 services (including RAF aircrew and groundcrew) are being engaged in combat on a daily basis. Some of them are coming back in body backs or without all the body pieces they deployed with.

It does seem incongruous that para wings can be worn but flying badges can't; but, frankly, I don't care about the badges...

Time flies you might be very surprised! I am just not bothered about my image like the rest of you, it's just a job.

No being aircrew is a gift,a passion and a drug....Freedom!:ok:

Generally the only people who get worked up about the wearing of wings are those who haven't got them. :E

Aircrew badge (Full or half wing), Para wings, Tech badge, Skill at arms, Commando dagger,Air tech, Air dispatcher, Whatever it is,it's your own hard work and your own choice of trade at the end of the day .....so live with it and stop whinning.........We all wave and fight for the same flag at the end of the day!:hmm:

Maybe it's a working dress thing; para wings = probably wearing CS95, pilots wings = probably wearing flying suit.

Surprise me then. :rolleyes:

Timeflies you have already stated that you think I am an adminer, is this is because I don't conform to your god like worship of the growbag or is it based on your extensive knowledge of other trades within the airforce besides the flying ones?
Me thinks you are speaking from limited experience and have only ever experienced one side of the fence.
Image is everything!!!!

The last time I experienced banter like this was when I was 9. I was in the Cubs and had just got my cooking badge for burning some bangers over a camp fire. I seem to remember I was allowed to wear it on my left upper arm.

However, then I grew up, got a profession and concentrated on more important things.

To all those reading this thread and not in the RAF, please do not judge us all on the basis of this.

Bellendbob,

Well said Sir, its like a "my dads bigger than your dad" scenario, I have had the honour to be entitled to wear a "Badge" for 21 years now, and the only place it appears is on my NO1's, and to be quite honest I don't really care, I Know what I am and I know the hard work that I put in for this "badge", So come on leave the playground behind, and lets all get the job done and get home safely, from wherever we may find ourselves now or in the near future, (with or without badges) :ok:

Zofo

Doesn't wash either -


But in the greater scheme of things IT ISN'T IMPORTANT

But in the greater scheme of things IT ISN'T IMPORTANT[/QUOTE]

He's right, you know.

Oh no he isn't:p

Yes, sorry, ABIW, I might have miss-read the above. I'll change it; IT ISN'T IMPORTANT - TO ME .....

Of course one can't see all my badges underneath the LEATHER JACKET I wear - baton anyone.....................?

..with my beret of course!

Mmmmnice

Congratulations ....... you've gone from cool to the Village People in one post :E

The solution
 

The solution to all this is easy.

All aircrew get TWO wings - we change (a la USAF) the centre symbol, suggestions as follows;

G - FJ Pilot (God wanabee)
M - FJ Navigator (knows he's God, but accepts that the Golden arches is calling)
Any truckie aviator - 2 wings with a pic of a pie/balti dish (LMs get a 'trolley')
Helo - pic of a jester (u have to be a fool to fly them)
AAR - petrol pump
Para - crutch (forward thinking)
E3 - obviously a mushroom pie
Nimrod - W or D for wet/dry (so the rest of us stand a fighting chance at understanding what you're on about)

Admin nerds can wear just a big "B" on their pullover.
Suppliers wear a big "S" .... (for stacker)
Engineers wear a big spanner
Air Traffic Controllers wear "FC-wanabee" tag
Fighter Controllers wear "Acrw wanabee" tag
Police Offrs don't need a badge as we can all see those ******s coming
Regt Offrs also don't need one - it wouldn't be visible as they hunch and drag their knuckles on the floor!


In the spirit of EO, did I manage to offend everyone?!


... and Stn Cdrs should wear a flag on their head when they're not in their cars.

WHO BL**DY CARES?
It doesn't deserve six pages of the most whinging and whining contradictory rubbish I've ever had to wade through in all the time I have subscibed to PPrune.:yuk:

You will find that if you try hard you need not become involved!!
GAGS
E86

Clearly, Klingon, this subject is dear to the hearts of quite a few, who don't wish to make a fashion faux pas when in uniform. In addition, it greatly amuses those from the other Services who don't seem to worry quite so much about where you sew your merit badges.

That seems to make it seven pages of drivel.

Threepointonefour said There was a lumpy jumpered Eng O in Goose used to wear wings.
Her's was a single brevet with a foaming beer mug.
This was around the time of the big police investigation.

We have been criticising the CAS for not conforming to the dress regs, when can you start a fashion trend, say blue woolly pully over desert DPM and topped with leather flying jacket?

"had" to?

One pictures you sat in Cuba with a US interrogator holding a pistol to your head ... (not a Walther though = no threat there).


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threepointonefour, it looks like you can subscribe to pprune.

Look at the heavy yellow menu bar above and click on USER CP.

At the bottom of this message box is another box, Additional Options.

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Interesting what a throwaway comment can reveal.

Wader

Please read through 3.14's post thoroughly and you'll see he's taking the pi$$ out of klingon when he wrote...

Switch on for heavens sake. :rolleyes:

Time Flies,

It had been a long day but I still don't see the irony.

Irony? "It's like goldy and bronzy only made of iron" :E


I know. I'll get my cloak.

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THE END

Pure genius Pontius.
I see a proper trend-setter. Somebody just has to get the rule books re-written.:D

Time flies, Oh Dear it's a sad day when you have to trawl through my old posts looking for some sort of mistakes onto which you can latch in a desperate bid to somehow make yourself look superior when you are losing the argument!
You are no warmer at all I am afraid, but like I said before you may be surprised! what badges would you like me to wear? You have of course only ever worn one badge proudly on your snug fitting, oh so sexy flying suit, haven't you?
I bet you wear yours into supermarkets and strut around the place hoping that someone notices how important and special you are, don't you?
I know this through lots of experience, and yet it still makes me laugh and cringe, Aircrew to a lot of people is all about image, yes they love their jobs and they are professional (most of them) but they like nothing more than being recognised and seen as different (special in their eyes) by others whilst in their Flying suits, with their crap hats and if they have the balls a black leather jacket.
That is of course forgetting to mention the obligatory Gun dog (black Lab preferably) and latest Japanese sports convertable.
You would hate to find out that I was aircrew wouldn't you? keep guessing.

toddbabe may well have a point, I was offered a jolly in a Seaking W a while back and I know I could feel myself getting sexier as I put on the growbag, gloves and bonedome. It was only by chance and good fortune that there were no members of the WRAF around to swoon at my tempory God-like status, grace, wit and charm.;)