Utter B*****ks
 

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To me, the beard is the bigger crime

People have beards, people in the RAF have beards, get over it.

some people have different opinions to you, get over it

Is that an old RAF tradition, the matter of laying one's nuts on the bar?

If he'd made the case that he'd decided to 'transition' and had laid them on the bar to cut them off, this would be front page of the RAF News with rainbow flags and Wigston shaking his hand.

If he'd have done that, the thread title would be "Sheared Bollocks!"

My opinions are different from.

There was a tradition called “ball walking” that involved popping your nuts out of your flying suit and rubbing them on a mate’s hand whilst they chatted in the bar until they noticed. Many a look of utter disgust being made back! :cool:

Of course, that kind of bawdy humour is no longer acceptable…

Langley
 

Not very often I find myself agreeing with your comments, but..................

I was taught as a child that things were..........

Different from........

Similar to..........

Not a lot of aviation content in that, but I am bored this evening which is why I am PPRuning.............

Mods - feel free to remove!!

I never saw it happen.

In my 35 years of aircrew time, I never came across such a vile so-called 'tradition'....

I must be getting old.........

I find myself agreeing with BEagle as well........

I never heard of that so called "tradition" either, and I operated in a different part of the RAF world from BEagle

Must be time to have my cocoa and go to bed.............

What about the burning of piano's? Very strange. What next? Books???

I should add that I wasn’t exactly a fan either. Certainly not a practitioner - my own family jewels are far too precious! But I have seen all sorts of testicular japes in the past amongst Armed Forces personnel. Some on things like TLP and other exercises with other nations too. Some involving Bootnecks with no clothes on.

Maybe you just led a quiet life as a trucky back at your hotel :E It’s even in the Urban Dictionary: https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...ball%20walking

Really? I never saw anything of the like either in fast-jet, training or AAR worlds.

Yup, really. I spent a looong time in the FJ world and also other types. Never a trucky though - shiney, gas pumpers nor tac - so maybe it missed LYE and BZN. To be honest, I saw far worse in my College Rugby Club days than what I ever saw in the Forces (so far).

LimaJuliet
 

I don't know which part of the FJ world you spent so much time in LJ, but I spent all of my time (after training) in fast jets of various types, plus a couple of exchange tours flying fast jets - and I never saw a single example of what is being suggested...........

Either I was simply not observant enough - or they never happened.

I am still with BEagle on this...............

Yep. Sprouts-out flyers were a regular occurrence at Finingley OMess Bar in the early 90s. Wouldn’t happen now though, what with Finingley being HMP….;)

Nothing remotely like that in my 12 years in the RAF, V force, 11 group and training command. What utter nonsense's.
Bloody pathetic.

I’m with L-J, saw it numerous times, but never practiced it myself.

And then there was the NFTC stude in the early [sic] naughties who allegedly got sent home for some similar misdemeanour. Didn’t seem to do them any harm in the long run…:eek:

Can we agree that in the distant past, some of us may have witnessed or even, shock horror, undertaken behaviour that probably would be frowned upon nowadays. And vow to try to do better in the future…

It must be a select group. Best keep it to yourself rather than advertise it. Never saw or heard of it in 25 yrs, including 2 RAFG tours, sundry UK tours, 2 Cmd tours or Staff College tours.

Unbelievable: the act voluntarily places one's cobblers in a very vulnerable situation surrounded by hyper young blokes, and the plunger would probably be difficult to hide in any case.

And neither would the punch in the face that followed.

CG

In my day any nuts on the Bar were there for customers to help themselves and have a nibble!?!?!?:oh:

FB

Since when is it permitted to wear a flying suit in the bar?

Scruffs?

Have you forgotten about the fellow VC10 captain who( allegedly) regularly whipped his gonads out and rested them on unsuspecting fellow officers shoulders while they were seated at the dining table? Or the GE who used to demonstrate the fine art of inserting a biro down his japs eye in down route bars? Of course neither of those gentlemen ever stooped as low as being seen with a scruffy beard while in uniform🤣

Back in the 90s in the worlds favourite airline briefing room at LHR, a mate got out his pecker and advanced slowly to place it carefully on the shoulder of a colleague who was head down and briefing the route on the chart table. Not wise and ended in disaster.
I had never heard of hotel 'naked bar" incidents that were popular with the British Army on exercise in the Nordics. Bit of a shock to the other residents on sight seeing visits. I guess it has all been stopped today.
rgds . r20 deg

"a university education, ya can't beat it.... " Lt E. Blackadder (1917)

What is the height of the bars that you refer to in the O's mess, or the scruffs bar, and what is the inside leg measurement of said Amazonian RAF officer? It should be pretty easy to determine to whom this post refers to, they will be the ones that are taller than the midgets in the Harlem Globetrotters. The good news is the injury sustained by the zip in venturing tackle out and then stretching the body to present tackle on to a bar top would only hurt for days.

If this was practice, I would be objecting to the PMC for expulsion of the member, and his associated items from the presence of the mess.

I have never heard of either event.....fortunately!

There are occasions when I'm relieved that Biggin Hill didn't consider me to be acceptable.

Never saw it during my various exploits, suffice to say the fire hazard due to pube shedding must have been significant.
Much worse in my view was the "Naked Sheik" circa 2002 Bahrain...

It is at this point I am extremely happy the RAF rejected my application.

Sorry, have we moved on from ball-walking to willy-waving?

So what are the facts here, beyond the (usual) hysterical headline? Sorry I am not seeing the source document here. Where did it happen, who observed it, and who was / were the complainant(s) ? I ask, because in my day as aircrew, we did some crazy things that were funny at the time, probably not acceptable in the cold/sober light of day, and were forgotten the next day (sort of). Today, having a bad thought appears to attract a whole raft of grief and anguish.

I suspect there is a generational issue here looking at the pro and con comments on bollock japes. But let me reassure you that there is an active industry on testicular pranks and humour:

https://www.billysballbags.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_nuts

These prank products have been developed from ball-bag humour over time.

I also repeat that this is not a single service thing and testicular japes have certainly been around since the late ‘80s in the Armed Forces of the world. I’ve seen it in the UK, US and Europe over the past 30 years. I guess it’s similar to the female boob flashing that I have seen at parties in and out of the services. It would be interesting to see if a female officer would be sent for CM if they popped their tits out on the bar! I’ve seen that too, and other naked pranks and also had my arse bitten by a female controller in a Mess bar in the late ‘90s. A CM offence? Not really. If this lad popped his spuds out for a prank and pinched a couple of bottoms in a drunken evening of madness, it should have been dealt with locally by the chain of command, probably a formal warning via MAAP, unless the individual is a repeat offender and higher sanction is required to correct the behaviour. CMs are lengthy and expensive to the public purse, is this really the best use of taxpayer’s money unless there were more serious sexual offences that have not been reported?

Avtur - some more detail here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-bottom.html

So was the Pressed Ham acceptable? Pressing one's butt against a window and having a colleague whip open the curtains at the appropriate time. We would do a Pyramid Pressed Ham, 3 on their knees on the bottom(!) row, two, and then one.

Another variation was the Pressed Ham with Bulldog, with one's nuts tucked back between the legs. Usually on dining-in nights.

I get much more pleasure from using my equipment for the designed purpose!

Clearly some here who led a very sheltered life in the RAF - should have been on helicopters......