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m0nkfish 2nd Apr 2023 16:02


Originally Posted by HOVIS (Post 11413416)
You were doing so well with a reasonable debate until the last line showed your prejudice.
Shame.

Hard to imagine how anyone can actually be prejudice to all this as we all get it shoved down our necks at every opportunity. From enforced wearing of pronoun badges, mandatory LGBQT+/E&D training, almost monthly 'awareness days', letters from school explaining how they have updated their training to reflect new government policy (currently now being reviewed!) that states LGBQT must be 'fully integrated', constant virtue signalling news and media articles from organisations trying to climb to the top of some ridiculous moral high ground.

I don't have an issue with gender dysphoria, but I do have an issue with the prominence it is being given in our society now versus the number of people who actually have it. From my experience with my children it seems that it's now become something of a trend to decide that one is transexual. The fact that this stuff is now confusing our children should be alarm bells for everyone. Sturgeon resigned because she had made such a horlicks of gender identity, if the Scottish government can't even figure out what a man and a woman is then we should at least start to open this up for a proper discussion. That means not branding opinions that contradict your own as 'bigoted' or 'prejudice'.

cheekychimp 2nd Apr 2023 17:19


Originally Posted by m0nkfish (Post 11413500)
Hard to imagine how anyone can actually be prejudice to all this as we all get it shoved down our necks at every opportunity. From enforced wearing of pronoun badges, mandatory LGBQT+/E&D training, almost monthly 'awareness days', letters from school explaining how they have updated their training to reflect new government policy (currently now being reviewed!) that states LGBQT must be 'fully integrated', constant virtue signalling news and media articles from organisations trying to climb to the top of some ridiculous moral high ground.

I don't have an issue with gender dysphoria, but I do have an issue with the prominence it is being given in our society now versus the number of people who actually have it. From my experience with my children it seems that it's now become something of a trend to decide that one is transexual. The fact that this stuff is now confusing our children should be alarm bells for everyone. Sturgeon resigned because she had made such a horlicks of gender identity, if the Scottish government can't even figure out what a man and a woman is then we should at least start to open this up for a proper discussion. That means not branding opinions that contradict your own as 'bigoted' or 'prejudice'.

You can't say things like that without being branded 'Nazi' 'Fascist' 'dinosaur' 'gammon' etc.

Finningley Boy 2nd Apr 2023 17:45


Originally Posted by HOVIS (Post 11413418)
What exactly does "the order of society" mean?
This is not the 19th century, we are not in Downton Abbey.

I'd have the Game Keeper escort you to the main gates if we were!:p

FB

langleybaston 2nd Apr 2023 18:46


Originally Posted by HOVIS (Post 11413418)
What exactly does "the order of society" mean?
This is not the 19th century, we are not in Downton Abbey.

Downton Abbey was set in 20th century.

But when did facts bother wokeism?

ExAscoteer2 2nd Apr 2023 18:51


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11413566)
But when did facts bother wokeism?

So demanding that people be treated equally and not discriminated against because they are in a minority group is wokeist?

PATHETIC!

langleybaston 2nd Apr 2023 19:01


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 (Post 11413571)
So demanding that people be treated equally and not discriminated against because they are in a minority group is wokeist?

PATHETIC!

My dear fellow Prpuner,

I believe, in a non-shouty way, that minorities should be respected, but majorities in a democracy should have their will upheld.

However, the bottom line is that every one of us is a minority, with our personal Venn diagram.

If you want a debate rather than an argument I suggest that you should cut out the capital letters, exclamation marks and abuse, it sits better on this forum.


Ninthace 2nd Apr 2023 19:30


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11413577)
My dear fellow Prpuner,

I believe, in a non-shouty way, that minorities should be respected, but majorities in a democracy should have their will upheld.

However, the bottom line is that every one of us is a minority, with our personal Venn diagram.

If you want a debate rather than an argument I suggest that you should cut out the capital letters, exclamation marks and abuse, it sits better on this forum.

And if the will of the majority is not to respect the minority but rather supress or oppress them, where do you stand then?

Senior Pilot 2nd Apr 2023 20:07

Having morphed into an almost inevitable back and forth hardly worthy of JetBlast, time to close this thread.


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