Yes who do they think they are those Argies? Falklands being as far as 1500 k's from Argentina and only 12750 from good old blighty. The hide of them to expect ownership of islands just off their coast. Let's put up the flag and beat our chests, a toast to Maggie Thatcher.
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Why don't they just claim Spain's African territories instead?
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Originally Posted by Cedrik
(Post 11395638)
Yes who do they think they are those Argies? Falklands being as far as 1500 k's from Argentina and only 12750 from good old blighty. The hide of them to expect ownership of islands just off their coast. Let's put up the flag and beat our chests, a toast to Maggie Thatcher.
Phew....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks like that, but daren't say it on here for fear of "reprisals" :ouch: It's ridiculous in this day and age that we "own" a p!ss poor island thousands of miles away from the UK but on the doorstep of Argentina and I can fully understand why they want it back. Imagine if Argentina "owned" the Shetland Islands.....what would we be saying and doing ?? The money that has gone in to maintaining a military presence there, and the British lives lost defending it, is beyond my compression. It's exactly the same with Gibraltar and a good few other places I could mention Stands by for incoming...... |
Originally Posted by Tiger G
(Post 11395749)
(hat and coat at the ready)
Phew....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks like that, but daren't say it on here for fear of "reprisals" :ouch: It's ridiculous in this day and age that we "own" a p!ss poor island thousands of miles away from the UK but on the doorstep of Argentina and I can fully understand why they want it back. Imagine if Argentina "owned" the Shetland Islands.....what would we be saying and doing ?? The money that has gone in to maintaining a military presence there, and the British lives lost defending it, is beyond my compression. It's exactly the same with Gibraltar and a good few other places I could mention Stands by for incoming...... |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11394757)
Argentinean politics again - roll out the Malvinas whenever the economy is going down the tubes
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ARGXIT
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Originally Posted by PlasticCabDriver
(Post 11395770)
Their economy or ours?
well in this case it was Argentina who made the change so their's But I agree the UK Govt occasionally bangs the drum when it suits them |
Problem isn't "owning the islands" - it's the people that live there - FI, Gib etc (tho not the Chagos Islanders of course.
left over bits of Empire but the inhabitants want to stay part of the UK. We're gradually getting rid of the King being Head of State of some very large countries across the world but it takes an interminable time. The French have similar issues, especially in the Pacific. If people want to stay British (or French) do we have the right to dump them?? |
Nope, but we do anyway if it suits us. How are things in Hong Kong these days?
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Originally Posted by Cedrik
(Post 11395638)
Yes who do they think they are those Argies? Falklands being as far as 1500 k's from Argentina and only 12750 from good old blighty. The hide of them to expect ownership of islands just off their coast. Let's put up the flag and beat our chests, a toast to Maggie Thatcher.
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
(Post 11395583)
No way I’m taking your mum home to my place. I don’t want anyone thinking I’ll accept hand me downs from the army
You’d have a job. Unless you’re a dedicated necrophiliac. |
Originally Posted by Cedrik
(Post 11395638)
Yes who do they think they are those Argies? Falklands being as far as 1500 k's from Argentina and only 12750 from good old blighty. The hide of them to expect ownership of islands just off their coast. Let's put up the flag and beat our chests, a toast to Maggie Thatcher.
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Originally Posted by Dannyboy39
(Post 11395272)
It must be election time again…oh It is!
Originally Posted by Tiger G
(Post 11395749)
(hat and coat at the ready)
Phew....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks like that, but daren't say it on here for fear of "reprisals" :ouch: It's ridiculous in this day and age that we "own" a p!ss poor island thousands of miles away from the UK but on the doorstep of Argentina and I can fully understand why they want it back. Imagine if Argentina "owned" the Shetland Islands.....what would we be saying and doing ?? The money that has gone in to maintaining a military presence there, and the British lives lost defending it, is beyond my compression. It's exactly the same with Gibraltar and a good few other places I could mention Stands by for incoming...... The UN and the UK Government recognise the right to self determination of the population, NOT any territorial claim to the actual land. On that basis the islands will never be Argentinian. |
Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 11395947)
You miss the point entirely! It has nothing to do with the territory, but everything to do with the population. There has never been an indigenous population, and the current population can trace their ancestry back to the first resident population.
The UN and the UK Government recognise the right to self determination of the population, NOT any territorial claim to the actual land. On that basis the islands will never be Argentinian. |
Argentina is, at last, thinking of exploring their own offshore zone for oil
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 11395947)
You miss the point entirely! It has nothing to do with the territory, but everything to do with the population. There has never been an indigenous population, and the current population can trace their ancestry back to the first resident population.
The UN and the UK Government recognise the right to self determination of the population, NOT any territorial claim to the actual land. On that basis the islands will never be Argentinian. |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11395970)
Argentina is, at last, thinking of exploring their own offshore zone for oil
I think this will be Shell's third go at exploration offshore Argentina (it is a Shell-Equinor-YPF venture). An ex boss of mine did the RFT in the bottom link. https://www.lyellcollection.org/doi/...petgeo2020-132 https://academic.oup.com/gji/article/165/3/850/555871 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321524379_The_Argentina_Continental_Margin https://www.bnamericas.com/en/news/former-ypf-official-upbeat-on-argentine-offshore-potential |
Originally Posted by petit plateau
(Post 11395987)
There have been previous rounds of oil exploration offshore Argentina, It remains to be seen whether this next round will find anything significant. It is also not obvious how any development offshore Falklands would deal with the associated gas, and flaring to produce is becoming increasingly awkward to justify. Personally I suspect that the window of opportunity to commit to any significant field developments in the more challenging frontier areas is rapidly closing and may only be open for another few years.
I think this will be Shell's third go at exploration offshore Argentina (it is a Shell-Equinor-YPF venture). An ex boss of mine did the RFT in the bottom link. https://www.lyellcollection.org/doi/...petgeo2020-132 https://academic.oup.com/gji/article/165/3/850/555871 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321524379_The_Argentina_Continental_Margin https://www.bnamericas.com/en/news/former-ypf-official-upbeat-on-argentine-offshore-potential |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 11395015)
Bring it on. It would serve as a wakeup call.
Like last time. Doctor, I think I've got Hermes. You mean Herpes? No, I think I'm a carrier How would you feel about your grand daughter be killed in the conflict you want to "bring on"? |
Originally Posted by Tiger G
(Post 11395749)
(hat and coat at the ready)
Phew....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks like that, but daren't say it on here for fear of "reprisals" :ouch: It's ridiculous in this day and age that we "own" a p!ss poor island thousands of miles away from the UK but on the doorstep of Argentina and I can fully understand why they want it back. Imagine if Argentina "owned" the Shetland Islands.....what would we be saying and doing ?? The money that has gone in to maintaining a military presence there, and the British lives lost defending it, is beyond my compression. It's exactly the same with Gibraltar and a good few other places I could mention Stands by for incoming...... |
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