Originally Posted by unmanned_droid
(Post 11394910)
In my opinion this is cropping up now as a combination of distraction at home in Argentina, and, the recent negative reports of UK defence status in light of aid to Ukraine and the economic situation. I would also expect this situation to be deliberately exacerbated by russia.
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We need to send a Carrier… do we have any Ocean going tugs?
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No. Plenty of crabs in hotels though.
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Originally Posted by mikeoneflying
(Post 11394956)
I wonder what China are offering Argentina to take this stance.
I am sure China would be quite happy to kick start their economy and get on track all the stagnating investments they have made in Argentina. Maybe even extended credit for or even give some nice new Chinese military equipment in exchange for a slice of the Falkland and its natural resources. We live in interesting times. |
Bring it on. It would serve as a wakeup call.
Like last time. Doctor, I think I've got Hermes. You mean Herpes? No, I think I'm a carrier |
Originally Posted by GlobalNav
(Post 11394908)
Just curious, who "bequeathed them" to the United Kingdom?
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Talk of China in Argentina reminded me of this little facility.
China's military-run space station in Argentina is a 'black box' | Reuters |
Originally Posted by uxb99
(Post 11394897)
Hypothetical question. If Argentina invaded now and caught the troops in situ off guard could we send a fleet like we did last time?
My understanding is we have two carriers which are broke, understaffed and underplaned with little to no support ships. A little old but unless they Argies have miraculously come up with a way of getting a lot of troops to the islands, its unlikely. |
"The Falklands is potentially an oil rich area. When I was there we met many 'oil people' who basically told us that all of the science indicated that there was a ton of oil there, but they were having trouble finding it. Did they?"
Yes- oil has been found in quantities in both the N Falklands and S Falklands Basin - maybe 400-600 mm bbl recoverable at Sea Lion in the N The issue has been getting someone to develop it. The field was found by a tiny UK company - Rockhopper Resources. Unfortunately Argie rhetoric made it a hot potato for the big international companies and the only partner avail was the mid sized UK Company, Premier Oil. They over extended themselves elsewhere in around 2012-13 and when the oil price fell had no money to spend. Eventually the main interest was sold to Navitas, an Israeli company (Rockhopper still have a percentage) about 18 months ago. They are pushing the project forward at last and, according to shareholder rumours, are actually in the FI this week talking to the Govt. Expect a Field Development plan in '24 and first oil '26-'27 It will make the islanders SUPER rich - maybe, like Brunei, they'll rent their own set of Gurkhas etc etc |
The British didn't "discover" them - a number of countries (Spain, France, UK, USA etc) had people landed and living there but there was no claim nor any law . It got so bad the USN actually landed to knock heads together but refused to "administer" it. It fell into UK hands more or less by accident.
The Argentinean claim is just that - a baseless claim. Mexico has a better claim to Texas. As for an Argentine invasion ... if you think the RN has declined since the 1980's the Argentinean Navy has gone off a cliff - no subs, no aircraft carrier, no modern aircraft, no money. The only that would worry me about defending the FI is that you have one big base and one long runway - and no medium - long range anti-air missiles. |
Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 11395074)
Talk of China in Argentina reminded me of this little facility.
China's military-run space station in Argentina is a 'black box' | Reuters |
No loony Argie general this time or Maggies mis judgements encouraging him, they dont have the forces to invade and we dont have the forces to defend them (and the Americans and French dont like us these days)
Just a perfect distraction from trouble in the domestic arena; works equally well for the British and Argentina governments . |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11395151)
The British didn't "discover" them - a number of countries (Spain, France, UK, USA etc) had people landed and living there but there was no claim nor any law . It got so bad the USN actually landed to knock heads together but refused to "administer" it. It fell into UK hands more or less by accident.
The Argentinean claim is just that - a baseless claim. Mexico has a better claim to Texas. As for an Argentine invasion ... if you think the RN has declined since the 1980's the Argentinean Navy has gone off a cliff - no subs, no aircraft carrier, no modern aircraft, no money. The only that would worry me about defending the FI is that you have one big base and one long runway - and no medium - long range anti-air missiles. |
It must be election time again…oh It is!
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Shareholder Message Boards today have reports of speech by Navitas top brass in Staley this week to a crowded meeting saying they're on for start of work in 2026. They'll use a charter flight from the UK probably to move people in and out - that's how the drilling operation was carried out 10+ years ago
There are already two shore bases in Stanley - will also helicopter support to the drilling rig and the FPSO when it's positioned post drilling the development wells. |
Islas Malvinas is a derivative of the original French name Iles Malouines, named by the French explorer de Bougainville whom hailed from St Malo.
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DreamWorks, ESPN and Netflix are happy to have scenes in their films depicting the nine-dash line.
So when they write the film and TV versions of China taking over the Falklands on behalf of the freedom loving Argentine Government --- I am sure the nine-dash line will be extended. |
Originally Posted by MENELAUS
(Post 11394995)
No. Plenty of crabs in hotels though.
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The detail orac posted speaks for itself.
As for Argentina. What exactly are they ever going to do? Seriously? |
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