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melmothtw 27th Jul 2022 10:42


It is a basic error to mix up fashion and uniforms.
Except that all uniforms are modelled on the fashion of their day. The basic RAF uniform dates back to the fashion of the 1920s, with some alterations and modifications over the years as fashions changed.

langleybaston 27th Jul 2022 18:36


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 11268694)
Except that all uniforms are modelled on the fashion of their day. The basic RAF uniform dates back to the fashion of the 1920s, with some alterations and modifications over the years as fashions changed.

Not the whole truth.

During both World Wars [to date] it is clear that women's fashion [at least] followed military trends. The osmosis works in both directions, seemingly.

chopper2004 28th Jul 2022 15:54

Aircrew leather jacket ?
 
My favorite subject and I wonder if Air Command might ask Aviation Leathercraft to design a new style of leather aircrew jacket lol

cheers

MPN11 28th Jul 2022 17:11


Originally Posted by chopper2004 (Post 11269407)
My favorite subject and I wonder if Air Command might ask Aviation Leathercraft to design a new style of leather aircrew jacket lol

cheers

Or perhaps a universal optional purchase for all Officers? Nah, the Sky-Gods would never accept that! :cool:

BEagle 28th Jul 2022 18:52

Oh do sharpen up...


RAF Uniform Policy changed on 10 May 2010. As part of these changes, the wearing of a privately purchased leather flying jacket with No 2 Dress, in lieu of the current General Purpose Jacket, was authorised. Previously this jacket was only authorised for aircrew. This authorisation has now been extended to all RAF Officers, Warrant Officers and Senior Non-Commissioned Officers.

MPN11 28th Jul 2022 19:02

Sorry, Beags … after my time! I rather lost interest in RAF dress regs in 1993!

Bob Viking 29th Jul 2022 12:12

MPN11
 
Sometimes us pilots feel that maybe we just imagine that the ‘blunties’ don’t like us. I’m glad you’re here to remind us that even senior ‘blunties’ really do/did hold a deep seated jealousy or loathing of us.

As for the Leathercraft jacket you’re welcome to it. I always hated the design and certainly wouldn’t pay out of my own pocket to wear one. Even if I’d realised how much it could have wound up those with a chip on their shoulder.

BV

NutLoose 29th Jul 2022 12:15

I thought you were looking at your demob suit Bob. :)

Bob Viking 29th Jul 2022 12:16

Nutty
 
Already wearing it!

BV

MPN11 29th Jul 2022 13:30


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 11269890)
Sometimes us pilots feel that maybe we just imagine that the ‘blunties’ don’t like us. I’m glad you’re here to remind us that even senior ‘blunties’ really do/did hold a deep seated jealousy or loathing of us.

Oh, deep admiration I assure you. I never progressed beyond PPL, and failed Mil flying training at a very early stage. And as an RAF ATCO, I wouldn't have had a job without you! :ok:

I just prefer wearing Leather to Plastic or Polyester.

NutLoose 29th Jul 2022 14:15


I just prefer wearing Leather to Plastic or Polyester.
And so sensible that is, it gives you some protection against fire, unlike Polyester or Plastic.
This was brought home to me many years ago when I watched a VC10 mass slide evacuation test for some requirement or the other, one of the young Waafs involved was wearing some type of underwear which must have had a high man made material content or the like, and her knickers literally melted and welded themselves to the poor girls posterior as she went down the slide, I don't know what was worse for her, the "carpet burns" she endured, the pain, or the bunch of interested young airman standing around watching the medic at work on her bottom...

I also knew some poor b*stard who was refuelling his car and had a flash fire, he was wearing a teeshirt and the burns he got were quite bad. To this day I always slip a cotton jacket on in the petrol station and accept the funny looks I get, even if it is up in the high thirties C.
At least I know when the temps are high and the risk greatest, I have done something to protect myself from the chances of a flash fire.

Krystal n chips 29th Jul 2022 15:23


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11269508)
Sorry, Beags … after my time! I rather lost interest in RAF dress regs in 1993!

Some of us were happily oblivious to them from the moment we left Halton...

Haraka 30th Jul 2022 07:57

I remember seeing the "Bum Freezer " black leather jackets coming in to unofficial RAF usage well over 30 years ago , A ground officer from a superb Recce Squadron ( :) ) turned up at one session I was at wearing the same. Grins all round of course, but underneath I felt that this reflected a good Flying/ Ground relationship regarding that Squadron's Officers at that time.

Wetstart Dryrun 1st Aug 2022 13:31

Let's march...

Saves walking.

RAFEngO74to09 8th Aug 2022 14:57

RAF Regiment - Crye Uniform
 
Either the RAF Regiment is officially trialling the Crye uniform - as now issued to the Royal Marines - or OC 15 Sqn RAF Regiment is just trying to look "ally".


cheekychimp 8th Aug 2022 16:59

Back in May the new Force Commander said he was looking at getting it for us. I'm surprised it's arrived this quickly, probably be the same as the Marines, 10 sets to share between everyone for photo opportunities.

NutLoose 8th Aug 2022 17:25

Now all he needs is to learn how to put his beret on correctly, badge over the eye isn’t it?, never understood the idea of walking around all camo’d up with a stable belt on either.

The silly thing is these days everyone is wearing the same stuff that you need coloured armbands in the likes of Ukraine to identify what side you are on.

Slow Biker 9th Aug 2022 17:41

It’s a special Rock Ape beret.

Toadstool 9th Aug 2022 21:55


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11275157)
Now all he needs is to learn how to put his beret on correctly, badge over the eye isn’t it?, never understood the idea of walking around all camo’d up with a stable belt on either.

The silly thing is these days everyone is wearing the same stuff that you need coloured armbands in the likes of Ukraine to identify what side you are on.

Not sure how long it’s been since you were in, but this is normal rig nowadays on base. Don’t worry, in combat, this changes.

Sigma 09 10th Aug 2022 10:19

Just put union jacks on USAF kit - it always looks cool. I remember being at Red Flag in '78 being totally embarrassed in my issue growbag when all the yanks looked like Tom Cruise. We've always been the scruffs of NATO!


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