As I currently work with the French Air and Space Force, I think I am qualified to say that their uniform is no different from our current No 2 uniform, but with different colours and better fit.

As you spend 99.9% of your time in flying kit, I am guessing that you also haven’t bought any blues in a long time. The newer (issue) kit is better than it used to be. Decent quality blues have always been available, you just have to pay for it.

Roland
 

In 23 years I have never paid for any blue uniform (apart from a new hat). I’ve also not had anything since my initial issue (which still fits) and the updated bits as they have been released.

Aside from Number 1s and 5s I probably haven’t worn blues for over ten years. And I haven’t worn either of those at all for at least five.

BV

So you are complaining about kit issued 23 years ago and you’ve never needed (or bothered) to buy any better quality uniform?

Roland
 

Why would anyone in their right mind pay to buy uniform that their employer mandates they should wear? If the RAF couldn’t give me blue uniform that fits and is comfortable to wear that’s bad right? I’m not going to pay to get them off the hook.

The images look like a uniform that would probably be more comfortable and accommodating.

None of this changes the fact that I think we should just wear MTP day to day with RAF flashes.

BV

Is that a bit like a 1250 but really poor quality!!

Bob,for those of us who`ve been out longer than you`ve been `in`,wossa MTP?
I was one once,but things `change`....:)

The 1250 credit card format used to self destruct , and the laminated jobby before that used to delaminate, so its obviously up there with the quality standard, what you want is it laser etched into a metal blank.

Multi Terrain Pattern as in what was DPM, ie cabbage kit.

It’s a fair point BV and I have never understood why RAF officers have to pay for a uniform we are mandated to wear, except for tradition, and the fact that for all of those 23 years you have been receiving a benefit from the tax man to help pay for that uniform. As I said, colleagues I’ve spoken to, who have used the new ordering system, have said that the newer uniform is better quality and fits better.

I'd agree with MTP with RAF flash for day to day work. My other thought was a lighter variant of the new RN working uniform. There will be cost and time savings with either of those options, and people may actually want to wear them, rather than the mess in the images on this thread.

If someone thinks that these uniforms will be used as a recruiting tool, I feel they are seriously misguided.

...With all the Gender neutralising going on....is all this kit 'Unisex' .....?

Seems like a lot of potential for mixing tops / bottoms there - it looks a nightmare to me to keep that lot controlled and people 'uniformally' dressed ......WO's will have a field day! :E

I would imagine they are test samples of the short listed designs to see which looks better in the physical form etc and what changes they need to implement.
Then a shorter list will be forthcoming as they address the issues the previous versions brought up, until a final design is selected and then binned due to financial constraints.

And on that point, BV, I totally agree. A fighting Service dressed like RAC Patrolmen (as a Recruiting mate observed) hardly engenders the right mental attitudes. But then I have pontificated on this topic before.

Agreed, plus you can hide easier from the SWO

Tax allowance.

Problem if unisex [multisex actually]: too loose in the chest for blokes, too tight in the crutch. No Ball Room as it were.

What a palava. How about : overalls / flying suits ( plus cold weather additions) , MTP, Number 1s. Simples.

So is "full webbing" no longer part of the uniform?

. . . like it apparently was during the Battle of Britain

Nailed it!

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