Nellis - Draken Adversary Contract
 

Interesting turn of events. Appears it won't be competed for under CAF CAS either.

Adversary Air Contract For Nellis AFB Won't Be Renewed

Interesting.......in many ways!

I wonder if there is any scope in passing those older F-22s to the Aggressor squadrons rather than retiring them?

Given the shoddy way Draken Europe treated their workforce in Newquay, presumably with the blessing of head office in the US, I have little sympathy for them losing a contract.

Lose one in Nellis, win one in UK

http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/...ter-squadrons/

Well let's see if the management lie to their new customers less than they did with the last ones.........and advice to pilots flying for them is to check your Ts and Cs carefully for levels of redundancy pay when it happens.

Someone has an issue with the U.K. legal entity which is, for all intents and purposes, CAvS rebranded with no leadership changes.

Yes, me and the rest of the excellent workforce at Newquay who were bullied, lied to and left hanging with bare minimum redundancy pay after the management's inability to tell the truth to customers lost them the major contract.

What lies did they tell? Did they provide redundancy pay in accordance with people’s contract?

Employee of Draken perhaps????

No no, I’m genuinely interested.

Instead of having a clear redundancy pay policy, they didn't have anything in people's contracts except mentioning that it would be handled in accordance with the employees handbook.

All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.

However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.

That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.

They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.

As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.

And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.

Wow, interesting stuff. Thank you.

That is absolutely appalling. I’m surprised folk haven’t taken legal action. Seems like a fundamental failure regard the basics.

The CEO got agitated when two of us mentioned that in interviews with him and was happy for legal challenges because they 'had expensive lawyers ready'.
Same CEO, same SLT - wouldn't trust them ever.

Why wasn’t legal action taken?

As terrible as it sounds, you did read the contract before you signed it?

Were they relying on the old adage that ex mil are sitting on IPP golden eggs so aren't really too bothered about real world niff naff and triv paperwork as long as the pension pays the mortgage?

AFAIK the USAF want to stop the expense of maintaining older F-22s so as to use funds for new aircraft and other good things.

Foghorn Leghorn the only ones who win and make any money are the lawyers

I know that all too well! However, if it’s as easy to show the lying and cheating as crab has spoken about then it would be a straight forward legal claim.