Nellis - Draken Adversary Contract
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Nellis - Draken Adversary Contract
Interesting turn of events. Appears it won't be competed for under CAF CAS either.
Adversary Air Contract For Nellis AFB Won't Be Renewed
Adversary Air Contract For Nellis AFB Won't Be Renewed
Given the shoddy way Draken Europe treated their workforce in Newquay, presumably with the blessing of head office in the US, I have little sympathy for them losing a contract.
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Well let's see if the management lie to their new customers less than they did with the last ones.........and advice to pilots flying for them is to check your Ts and Cs carefully for levels of redundancy pay when it happens.
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Well let's see if the management lie to their new customers less than they did with the last ones.........and advice to pilots flying for them is to check your Ts and Cs carefully for levels of redundancy pay when it happens.
Someone has an issue with the U.K. legal entity which is, for all intents and purposes, CAvS rebranded with no leadership changes.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Yes, me and the rest of the excellent workforce at Newquay who were bullied, lied to and left hanging with bare minimum redundancy pay after the management's inability to tell the truth to customers lost them the major contract.
What lies did they tell? Did they provide redundancy pay in accordance with people’s contract?
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Employee of Draken perhaps????
Instead of having a clear redundancy pay policy, they didn't have anything in people's contracts except mentioning that it would be handled in accordance with the employees handbook.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Instead of having a clear redundancy pay policy, they didn't have anything in people's contracts except mentioning that it would be handled in accordance with the employees handbook.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Instead of having a clear redundancy pay policy, they didn't have anything in people's contracts except mentioning that it would be handled in accordance with the employees handbook.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
That is absolutely appalling. I’m surprised folk haven’t taken legal action. Seems like a fundamental failure regard the basics.
Same CEO, same SLT - wouldn't trust them ever.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
The CEO got agitated when two of us mentioned that in interviews with him and was happy for legal challenges because they 'had expensive lawyers ready'.
Same CEO, same SLT - wouldn't trust them ever.
Same CEO, same SLT - wouldn't trust them ever.
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Instead of having a clear redundancy pay policy, they didn't have anything in people's contracts except mentioning that it would be handled in accordance with the employees handbook.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
All fine except the Draken employees handbook never existed, -except on a sharepoint site that wasn't accessible to Newquay staff (and there was no redundancy policy in it anyway) - the only mention regarding redundancy pay being in an older FR Aviation employee handbook - that said that redundancy pay would normally be in excess of statutory minimums.
However, they denied that was binding and relied on the concept that having no policy meant that their actual policy was no more than statutory minimums.
That was how they treated very well qualified and motivated staff (all ex-mil) when they closed the Academy as quickly and cheaply as they could having encouraged people to move to the SW and relocate at great cost.
They denied that when Waddington closed they paid staff in excess of statutory redundancy - we didn't believe that and had it on good authority that it wasn't true. They stuck by their assertion and the only way to get them to prove it would have been to take them to court.
As for the lying - one of my colleagues said he could write a book on how not to deal with customers based on how he saw the management constantly promise the earth and consistently fail to deliver.
And somehow - not sure of the legality - they claimed we were key workers so we had to keep going through lockdown, even when the UK Mil training system had shut down. Oh, and we were told if we didn't stay flying, we'd all lose our jobs.
Were they relying on the old adage that ex mil are sitting on IPP golden eggs so aren't really too bothered about real world niff naff and triv paperwork as long as the pension pays the mortgage?
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