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melmothtw 29th Oct 2021 10:46

Yes, the Phalcon/Condor has been grounded for some years now. I believe the US Navy paid $15 million for the E-3D it recently bought from the MoD as a trainer, so imagine Chile's price would be in that ball park also. I doubt the Israelis (or anyone else) could offer a comparable capability for a similar price. Also worth noting that Chile already operates the KC/C-135 (albeit it with the older CFM56-2 engine), so support, training, operational synergies to be had.

Alabama boy 30th Oct 2021 10:33

I would be amazed if Chile could afford the infrastructure to support an E3 unless the RAF sold it all as a complete package for a bargain price - mission sim , specialist mission prep radar support etc etc. I would also have thought the US would have a say in any re-export of E3 technology but if Boeing/NG sell support you could sort of see a UK/US deal for Chile.

radar101 15th Nov 2021 20:14

Driving past Waddington today I noticed An E-3D on the taxiway without a rotadome. couldn't see what tail number though.

Wensleydale 15th Nov 2021 20:26


Originally Posted by radar101 (Post 11142636)
Driving past Waddington today I noticed An E-3D on the taxiway without a rotadome. couldn't see what tail number though.

ZH105. When the MOD was looking at producing our own AWACS update under "Sustain Sentry", ZH105 was going to be the ground lab for evaluating new equipment - it would stay on the ground and allow the developers to "cut metal" for new wiring looms/data nets etc without affecting the remaining flying fleet. Phase one of Sustain Sentry produced the installation of a Mode S interrogator, but the rest of the project was lost in the SDSR.

RAFEngO74to09 18th Jan 2022 14:39


RAFEngO74to09 18th Jan 2022 14:40


steamchicken 18th Jan 2022 23:23

Just the moment for the AEW to go technical. Thanks for the tax cut...wait....

melmothtw 19th Jan 2022 08:26

An interesting 'EXCLUSIVE' that we were discussing here months ago.

NutLoose 19th Jan 2022 12:42

Yes,
link here
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/brit...sold-to-chile/



melmothtw 19th Jan 2022 13:04

Thanks Nutloose, but my comment was more alluding to the tag of EXCLUSIVE (their capped up, not mine) for a story that's clearly bene around a while already.

NutLoose 19th Jan 2022 13:26

I looked for the link after you mentioned it, by this link it appears we are still flying the odd one

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/reti...ncy-in-flight/

AndySmith 20th Jan 2022 10:50

From browsing a certain South American forum - it would seem the rumours are that the 3 E-3Ds selected are ZH101/3/6 and the first expected to arrive in June.

Gordon Brown 20th Jan 2022 21:23

I know they had a Phalcon previously but curious to know why Chile needs 3 AWACS. Where’s the threat?

<Tin foil hat on>

I guess they could keep the UK informed of air activity in a certain regional neighbour. Maybe even a little Link 11/16 activity?

Davef68 20th Jan 2022 22:57


Originally Posted by Gordon Brown (Post 11172873)
I know they had a Phalcon previously but curious to know why Chile needs 3 AWACS. Where’s the threat?

<Tin foil hat on>

I guess they could keep the UK informed of air activity in a certain regional neighbour. Maybe even a little Link 11/16 activity?

One is a spares ship apparently

RAFEngO74to09 26th Jan 2022 16:04


Willard Whyte 27th Jan 2022 13:55

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dcb1302ca8.jpg

NutLoose 27th Jan 2022 17:57

I wonder if we will do conversion training for the Chileans in the U.K. or will they do it on delivery, or will the US do it.

Nice looking 767.

CAEBr 27th Jan 2022 18:16


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11176083)
I wonder if we will do conversion training for the Chileans in the U.K. or will they do it on delivery, or will the US do it.

Word seems to be that they are over for four months or so airborne and sim training, and will take the aircraft back after that.

ORAC 27th Jan 2022 18:32

Just cockpit crew or backend as well? Are we selling them the sim(s)?

Details of E-3D AWACS Simulator

https://www.plexsys.com/mtc-programs-uk/


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