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Bob Viking 4th Sep 2021 10:06

OC 99
 
I’ve known Kev for a very long time and I’ve already chatted with him directly about the incident described.

I’ll happily go on record here and say what a bloody great job he and the other crews performed under incredibly stressful circumstances.

I sincerely hope there will be some form of medallic recognition in due course.

BV

Barksdale Boy 4th Sep 2021 13:43

I'm sure it makes us all feel proud.

XXmet 4th Sep 2021 13:46

It's reported that 365 Afghan pilots and numerous aircraft are in Uzbekistan requesting U.S. evacuation. Taliban says they want the aircraft "back". Type aircraft unk to me.

Source: A Qatari News Organization.

MPN11 4th Sep 2021 14:09


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 11105997)
I sincerely hope there will be some form of medallic recognition in due course.
BV

As Baldrick might say, “When is a war not a war?”. AFC? … perhaps. QCVSA? … yes.

NutLoose 4th Sep 2021 14:25

I just hope this is the end of Poni Ops

( Poking Our Noses In Other People’s Sh*t )

MPN11 4th Sep 2021 16:11

Why break the habit of centuries? We (both UK Govt and East India Company) were poking into ‘Stan since 1800 … initially to keep Napoleon and Imperial Russia away from India. I guess it’s routine by now.

Mr N Nimrod 4th Sep 2021 17:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11106101)
I just hope this is the end of Poni Ops

( Poking Our Noses In Other People’s Sh*t )

maybe just think for one moment what events triggered the Afghanistan mission, some 20 years ago!

skua 5th Sep 2021 19:53

Trenchant review of The Afghanistan Papers (Craig Whitlock) by Max Hastings in today's Sunday Times : "As for the generals, I have come to believe that the 'can-do' ethos, which the British Army promotes as enthusiastically as its US counterpart, has been a disaster thus far in the 21st century because it instutionalises falsehood.."

Worth reading.

NutLoose 5th Sep 2021 21:09

That’s half the problem, Governments continually chopping the military, but believing we still have the capability of the WW1 military and the military seniority not telling them how it is.

Bangladesh has a bigger military than us.

Willard Whyte 5th Sep 2021 22:05


Originally Posted by XXmet (Post 11105509)
Looks like Arizona.

Iranian road signs are similar in design to American ones


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....edc1222f6c.jpg

And those trucks look a bit shabby for America, and all are cabover designs.

fitliker 5th Sep 2021 22:35


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11106690)
That’s half the problem, Governments continually chopping the military, but believing we still have the capability of the WW1 military and the military seniority not telling them how it is.

Bangladesh has a bigger military than us.

That might explain the inclusion of additional spending in the recent defence budget for expanding the draft to include females and those previously exempt from registration for the draft .


NutLoose 5th Sep 2021 22:45

Well the defence budget is a farce, the upgrade to the warrior giving it a true update in capability was cancelled after a 450 mil spend to buy the new Ajax which has doubled in weight and is inoperable due to noise and crew comfort.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/warr...ng-in-service/

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/ajax...-halted-again/

We seem to have one of the biggest budgets for the smallest military which wastes money like this hand over foot. 450 million might be small fry in the overall scheme, but they call add up, and then when you do put forward purchases such as the fleet aux’s ships you put them overseas thus crippling the future of the U.K. infrastructure. Heck the Ajax for all the whitewashed in the Union Jack isn’t British.


I just wonder how much US equipment is now in Russia, China and Iran being examined.

Mr N Nimrod 5th Sep 2021 22:57


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11106729)
Well the defence budget is a farce, the upgrade to the warrior giving it a true update in capability was cancelled after a 450 mil spend to buy the new Ajax which has doubled in weight and is inoperable due to noise and crew comfort.

We seem to have one of the biggest budgets for the smallest military which wastes money like this hand over foot. 450 million might be small fry in the overall scheme, but they call add up, and then when you do put forward purchases such as the fleet aux’s ships you put them overseas thus crippling the future of the U.K. infrastructure. Heck the Ajax for all the whitewashed in the Union Jack isn’t British.

been on the pop tonight fella?

woptb 5th Sep 2021 23:58

Defence surely safe in the hands of the strategic masterminds running the country.

RAFEngO74to09 6th Sep 2021 02:05


Originally Posted by XXmet (Post 11105509)
The photo might be a "blow for Biden". Looks like Arizona.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cc269f19d.jpeg
It is not anywhere in the USA. No license plates on the ear of the semi-trailers, no DOT details on the side of the truck cabs, and the trucks are Iranian manufactured Chapars.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....155dcfefbe.png
https://irannewsdaily.com/2020/01/ir...cturing-plant/

Mil-26Man 6th Sep 2021 09:12


Bangladesh has a bigger military than us.
I imagine their state pension for retired service personnel isn't up to much, mind.

ORAC 6th Sep 2021 12:21

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sta...ts-afghanistan

State Dept blocking private rescue flights from leaving Afghanistan

ORAC 6th Sep 2021 14:38

Update on the Panjshir valley.


MarcK 6th Sep 2021 17:25


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11107012)
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sta...ts-afghanistan

State Dept blocking private rescue flights from leaving Afghanistan

That's not how the Associated Press reports it:

KABUL, Afghanistan — At least four planes chartered to evacuate several hundred people seeking to escape the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan have been unable to leave the country for days, officials said Sunday, with conflicting accounts emerging about why the flights weren’t able to take off as pressure ramps up on the United States to help those left behind to flee.

An Afghan official at the airport in the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif said that the would-be passengers were Afghans, many of whom did not have passports or visas, and thus were unable to leave the country. He said they had left the airport while the situation was sorted out.

ORAC 7th Sep 2021 06:27

Those who have organised the flights, and are on the ground in Kabul, seem to disagree. From today’s Grauniad.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nistan-blocked

Biden under pressure as NGO says flights from Afghanistan blocked


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