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Adverse Jaw 26th Jun 2021 14:12

A400 Atlas
 
Can anyone explain why the Air Bridge provided to Operation Barkhane in Mali is so poor? Night stop in GIB out and back! Schedules running days late. Landing slots unavailable in Brize! Have the serviceability problems we read about a while back been resolved?

isaneng 26th Jun 2021 16:08

So. I'm guessing you are not an aircrew, or related, person?
Any more direct operational questions you might like to ask?
You do know, don't you, that 'I Wonder..................'? isn't, honestly, actually, a question that anyone wants to answer?
Try, 'The Beano, Biffo says' for an answer that might please you.
Perhaps.
Maybe.
Who cares.

NutLoose 26th Jun 2021 17:51

Night stops could simply be down to crew hours, fuel etc.

Easy Street 26th Jun 2021 18:03

The stop in Gib might also be a "flag stop" to assert continued British sovereignty post-Brexit. As it's conveniently on the route, it would save mounting occasional exercises or detachments for the same purpose.

MPN11 26th Jun 2021 18:25

Single runway Brize is busy, and needs slot allocations? Who would have thought it! I blame Lyneham, for closing.

Ken Scott 26th Jun 2021 19:16

Nothing to do with the single runway MPN11, it’s most probably due to a lack of capacity with the Movers, being ‘MOGed’* was a regular occurrence when I was at Brize.

But not having Lyneham has definitely reduced the RAF’s AT capacity. Who’d have thought that in 2011?


(* MOG = Movements on Ground)





Herod 26th Jun 2021 20:12

Fifty plus Hercules at Lyneham? Now, those WERE the days

ExAscoteer2 26th Jun 2021 20:26


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 11068857)
Fifty plus Hercules at Lyneham? Now, those WERE the days

Try sixty + airframes.

salad-dodger 26th Jun 2021 23:14


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 (Post 11068864)
Try sixty + airframes.

Yep, think we bought around 60 Hercs

Herod 27th Jun 2021 07:01


Try sixty + airframes.
Original purchase, yes. 62 IIRC. One went to the Met Office people (Snoopy), and by my time on the fleet I think three had been lost in accidents. Whatever the actual number, very impressive. The smoke cloud after a JATFOR departure took ages to clear!!

ancientaviator62 27th Jun 2021 07:31

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c6cc08271c.jpg
If you were further back then 4 or 5 then oxygen for the taxy and take off was essential

Brian 48nav 27th Jun 2021 08:10

Herod

66 were purchased. I believe one of the first ( XV 177 or was it 178? ) went to Boscombe and stayed there for years.

By the time I left at my 8year option in late '73, one had been lost at Fairford in '69, another at Pisa in '71 and IIRC one was written off on landing at Tromso, '72 ?. I guess it was another 20 years before the next loss.

Snoopy ,208, had originally been one of the 12 at Changi with 48Sqn ( 198-209 ) and conversion commenced in 72/3.

Thaihawk 27th Jun 2021 08:57

XV178 was the one at Boscombe Down. XV180 was the one lost at Fairford, and (IIRC) XV216 was the one lost at Pisa. Tis airframe was extant on the dump there for many years afterwards.

AARON O'DICKYDIDO 27th Jun 2021 10:51

LOST HERCULES
 

Originally Posted by Brian 48nav (Post 11069059)
Herod

66 were purchased. I believe one of the first ( XV 177 or was it 178? ) went to Boscombe and stayed there for years.

By the time I left at my 8year option in late '73, one had been lost at Fairford in '69, another at Pisa in '71 and IIRC one was written off on landing at Tromso, '72 ?. I guess it was another 20 years before the next loss.

Snoopy ,208, had originally been one of the 12 at Changi with 48Sqn ( 198-209 ) and conversion commenced in 72/3.

There was the one at Colerne about 1975.

Arron.

ExAscoteer2 27th Jun 2021 12:45

When I got to Lyneham there were 61 airframes. Four had been lost: Fairford (XV180), Pisa (XV216), Tromsø (XV194), and Colerne (XV198).

Snoopy (XV208) was at Farnborough.

Brian 48nav 27th Jun 2021 13:53

AARON Yes you're right! I'd forgotten the Colerne one - pretty sure it was September '73, the day I was having my final medical at Lyneham. The skipper was Tony Barrett a Flt Cdr on 48, who had been on 30 before an exchange tour with the Yanks I think.

RAFEngO74to09 14th Mar 2022 14:17

Luftwaffe A400M entire sortie cockpit video - including AAR of Tornado..
RAF A400M operators may be interested to compare cockpit procedures.

chevvron 14th Mar 2022 15:59


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 (Post 11069194)
When I got to Lyneham there were 61 airframes. Four had been lost: Fairford (XV180), Pisa (XV216), Tromsø (XV194), and Colerne (XV198).

Snoopy (XV208) was at Farnborough.

As far as I recall, Snoopy arrived at Farnborough either just before or just after the '74 airshow. I was posted in at the beginning of March that year but the main runway was being re-surfaced and this didn't finish until early August '74 although some aircraft operated off the subsidiary runways including a Comet 4 departure from runway 30; they pushed it back with a tug to get maximum TORA and a watching Andover pilot remarked 'some of us go forwards to take off'.

minigundiplomat 15th Mar 2022 09:11

So the original posters enquiry about the Barkane Airbridge has been lost in a sea of nostalgia about Lyneham, which closed several years ago.


bspatz 15th Mar 2022 09:32

I love that a on thread called A400 Atlas most of the posts are about Hercules!


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