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Old 26th Jun 2021, 14:12
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Can anyone explain why the Air Bridge provided to Operation Barkhane in Mali is so poor? Night stop in GIB out and back! Schedules running days late. Landing slots unavailable in Brize! Have the serviceability problems we read about a while back been resolved?
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 16:08
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So. I'm guessing you are not an aircrew, or related, person?
Any more direct operational questions you might like to ask?
You do know, don't you, that 'I Wonder..................'? isn't, honestly, actually, a question that anyone wants to answer?
Try, 'The Beano, Biffo says' for an answer that might please you.
Perhaps.
Maybe.
Who cares.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 17:51
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Night stops could simply be down to crew hours, fuel etc.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 18:03
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The stop in Gib might also be a "flag stop" to assert continued British sovereignty post-Brexit. As it's conveniently on the route, it would save mounting occasional exercises or detachments for the same purpose.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 18:25
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Single runway Brize is busy, and needs slot allocations? Who would have thought it! I blame Lyneham, for closing.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 19:16
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Nothing to do with the single runway MPN11, it’s most probably due to a lack of capacity with the Movers, being ‘MOGed’* was a regular occurrence when I was at Brize.

But not having Lyneham has definitely reduced the RAF’s AT capacity. Who’d have thought that in 2011?


(* MOG = Movements on Ground)




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Fifty plus Hercules at Lyneham? Now, those WERE the days
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Fifty plus Hercules at Lyneham? Now, those WERE the days
Try sixty + airframes.
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Try sixty + airframes.
Yep, think we bought around 60 Hercs
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Try sixty + airframes.
Original purchase, yes. 62 IIRC. One went to the Met Office people (Snoopy), and by my time on the fleet I think three had been lost in accidents. Whatever the actual number, very impressive. The smoke cloud after a JATFOR departure took ages to clear!!
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If you were further back then 4 or 5 then oxygen for the taxy and take off was essential
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 08:10
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66 were purchased. I believe one of the first ( XV 177 or was it 178? ) went to Boscombe and stayed there for years.

By the time I left at my 8year option in late '73, one had been lost at Fairford in '69, another at Pisa in '71 and IIRC one was written off on landing at Tromso, '72 ?. I guess it was another 20 years before the next loss.

Snoopy ,208, had originally been one of the 12 at Changi with 48Sqn ( 198-209 ) and conversion commenced in 72/3.
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XV178 was the one at Boscombe Down. XV180 was the one lost at Fairford, and (IIRC) XV216 was the one lost at Pisa. Tis airframe was extant on the dump there for many years afterwards.
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Originally Posted by Brian 48nav View Post
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66 were purchased. I believe one of the first ( XV 177 or was it 178? ) went to Boscombe and stayed there for years.

By the time I left at my 8year option in late '73, one had been lost at Fairford in '69, another at Pisa in '71 and IIRC one was written off on landing at Tromso, '72 ?. I guess it was another 20 years before the next loss.

Snoopy ,208, had originally been one of the 12 at Changi with 48Sqn ( 198-209 ) and conversion commenced in 72/3.
There was the one at Colerne about 1975.

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Old 27th Jun 2021, 12:45
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When I got to Lyneham there were 61 airframes. Four had been lost: Fairford (XV180), Pisa (XV216), Tromsø (XV194), and Colerne (XV198).

Snoopy (XV208) was at Farnborough.
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AARON Yes you're right! I'd forgotten the Colerne one - pretty sure it was September '73, the day I was having my final medical at Lyneham. The skipper was Tony Barrett a Flt Cdr on 48, who had been on 30 before an exchange tour with the Yanks I think.
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Luftwaffe A400M entire sortie cockpit video - including AAR of Tornado..
RAF A400M operators may be interested to compare cockpit procedures.
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Old 14th Mar 2022, 15:59
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 View Post
When I got to Lyneham there were 61 airframes. Four had been lost: Fairford (XV180), Pisa (XV216), Tromsø (XV194), and Colerne (XV198).

Snoopy (XV208) was at Farnborough.
As far as I recall, Snoopy arrived at Farnborough either just before or just after the '74 airshow. I was posted in at the beginning of March that year but the main runway was being re-surfaced and this didn't finish until early August '74 although some aircraft operated off the subsidiary runways including a Comet 4 departure from runway 30; they pushed it back with a tug to get maximum TORA and a watching Andover pilot remarked 'some of us go forwards to take off'.
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So the original posters enquiry about the Barkane Airbridge has been lost in a sea of nostalgia about Lyneham, which closed several years ago.

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I love that a on thread called A400 Atlas most of the posts are about Hercules!
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