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The...Bird 7th Jan 2021 15:18

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SpamCanDriver 7th Jan 2021 15:39


Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2 (Post 10962145)
So that's alright then is it? Because it was done in the past we should not criticise?

How you can compare nose art of bombs or whatever to the naked female form is beyond me.

As for 'hurt'? No, just sick and tired of idiots like you and your ilk with your overt sexism.

Its the preservation of history, you might want to have a look around a classical portrait gallery one day

Wensleydale 7th Jan 2021 16:09

Aircraft nose art censorship is not a new phenomenon. Back in April 1944, Lancaster R5868, PO-S "Sugar" of 467 Sqn RAAF was soon to become the first Lancaster to achieve 100 operational sorties, and anticipating lots of publicity should the aircraft reach the target, the Stn Cdr demanded that the crew change the nose art on their aircraft which was a (tasteful) nude holding a bomb. As the Stn Cdr said, "I do not wish to scare the Archbishop of Canterbury". The crew were understandably miffed, but orders are orders, and on Op 98, the aircraft was wheeled out with new nose art consisting of the bomb log and a quote from Goering "No Enemy Aircraft Shall Fly Over Reich Territory". Sugar made her 100th Op and went on to fly another 136 (the final number is still debated for accuracy) becoming the second most ops flown during the War for a Lancaster. She still wears the replacement nose art as an exhibit in the RAF Museum at Hendon. The photograph shows her penultimate nose art:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e83a0865b5.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....155cabcb60.jpg



SWBKCB 7th Jan 2021 16:13


Originally Posted by canard68 (Post 10961744)
I bet some MOD bod is copying and pasting from this already. The Purge Pt 2 is coming - General Discussion - Baseops Forums

Charlie Brown is a USAF General and Chief of Staff of the Air Force? That's brightened a dark day! :ok:

PapaDolmio 7th Jan 2021 16:34

ISTR one of the southern US Air National Guard fighter units used CM as a tail code, which allegedly stood for C**nass Milita a while ago.

SOX80 7th Jan 2021 16:44

The question with all this is who decides what is acceptable? I think there are many who could do with turning the gain up on their offensometers, there is some stuff that is worth challenging, I am not sure that this is it. I also bet most of the people who get up in arms about this have at some time watched much worse on the internet.

Non Linear Gear 7th Jan 2021 21:06

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8626996805.jpg
The last racy nose art on a RAF Aircraft. The door is somewhere safe. The orginial artwork was Johnny Fartpants. Not prehaps as racy as this nose art, but Miks work had graced a lot of Sqn T shirts and murials around the world where Jags had been. It was great to see his work on a Jet.

Flugplatz 7th Jan 2021 21:35

Can't believe some of the sanctimony about this, it is not as if the art is actually pornographic - plenty of celebrity 'models/influencers' not being at all shy about flaunting themselves and selling the body image. Wasn't there a female Apache pilot who bragged about killing more people than Harold Shipman? that to me is far more offensive and borderline insulting.

ASRAAMTOO 7th Jan 2021 21:38

The temptation to post photos of the following WW2 Nose Art is ALMOST irresistible. I am however worried someone of the PC inclination will complain and I’ll get banned. You’ll just have to google them:

Forever Amber
Target for Tonight
Lady Luck
Flamin Mamie
Miss Yourlovin
Home Stretch
Surprise Attack
Sack Time
Mission Completed
Southern Comfort
Strawberry Bitch
and my personal favourite Sloppy But Safe.

Senior Pilot 7th Jan 2021 23:58


Originally Posted by ASRAAMTOO (Post 10962877)
The temptation to post photos of the following WW2 Nose Art is ALMOST irresistible. I am however worried someone of the PC inclination will complain and I’ll get banned. You’ll just have to google them:

Forever Amber
Target for Tonight
Lady Luck
Flamin Mamie
Miss Yourlovin
Home Stretch
Surprise Attack
Sack Time
Mission Completed
Southern Comfort
Strawberry Bitch
and my personal favourite Sloppy But Safe.

A sad reflection on today’s PC society, but I’d see no need for any moderation if the images pass the pub test.

To think this all dates back to the 30’s and 40’s: https://www.aircorpsart.com/blog/the...inup-nose-art/

megan 8th Jan 2021 00:21

Seems in todays PC society everyone has to be offended by something. The fair sex being objectified? I would have thought nose art was an expression of admiration for the opposite gender, and a longing to be back amongst their company, rather than posted to some out of the way place devoid of their presence while you engage in the bloody practice of warfare. Wonder what the PC crowd would think of the WASP pilots who used to take their boyfriends on rides in the B-17 and practice their amorous clinches on the bombardiers couch in flight. Misuse of government property? Wonder if the countryside was littered with used prophylactics?

finestkind 8th Jan 2021 01:28

First four ladies going through RAAF pilots course (late 80's?) with the number on course of 40. Initial badge presented for the course, with ladies in agreement, was 10% flap for the course motto. Don't recall the badge picture but the CO knocked it back.

RubiC Cube 8th Jan 2021 08:22


Originally Posted by finestkind (Post 10962945)
First four ladies going through RAAF pilots course (late 80's?) with the number on course of 40. Initial badge presented for the course, with ladies in agreement, was 10% flap for the course motto. Don't recall the badge picture but the CO knocked it back.

and Robin held her own on her 1st sqn and was sick and tired as being referred to as a female pilot

mopardave 8th Jan 2021 09:31

So let me get this straight. It's not okay to have some racy (and I must say, pretty impressive) nose art but it IS okay to engage in war? Are some of you lot for real? In the interests of balance, get some scantily clad blokes on the side of aircraft.........if I'd had the body, I'd have offered to model for it! These days I don't but it might at least be cause for amusement. It works both ways, surely and I do accept, there are limits.

Ewan Whosearmy 8th Jan 2021 10:57

It seems odd that people get perpetually wound up and 'offended' by pictures adorned to the sides of instruments of war. It's equally odd that someone who is paid to go to war and kill / be part of the kill chain, would have their gyros so easily toppled by such images.

I've only ever seen one bit of nose art that made me sit and up and think it was going too far, and that was an on F-105 in SEA. At the time, F-105 pilots were dropping like flies, so it occurred to me that perhaps this little morale booster was worth the offence that anyone might have taken.

Link below. Probably NSFW, and definitely not safe for one particular poster on this forum:

db4abde54d528de9a80e7b6b52eb64d5.jpg (1280×1280) (pinimg.com)

andrasz 8th Jan 2021 12:49

"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write 'f#ck'* on their aeroplanes because it's obscene!"
Col. Walter E Kurtz

* In the finest spirit, I was not allowed to post the quote verbatim because it was blocked by the profanity filter

mopardave 8th Jan 2021 13:58


Originally Posted by Ewan Whosearmy (Post 10963182)
It seems odd that people get perpetually wound up and 'offended' by pictures adorned to the sides of instruments of war. It's equally odd that someone who is paid to go to war and kill / be part of the kill chain, would have their gyros so easily toppled by such images.

I've only ever seen one bit of nose art that made me sit and up and think it was going too far, and that was an on F-105 in SEA. At the time, F-105 pilots were dropping like flies, so it occurred to me that perhaps this little morale booster was worth the offence that anyone might have taken.

Link below. Probably NSFW, and definitely not safe for one particular poster on this forum:

db4abde54d528de9a80e7b6b52eb64d5.jpg (1280×1280) (pinimg.com)

Ooooh..........light the blue touch paper and stand well back! There are some talented artists in the military!

Party Animal 8th Jan 2021 14:33

The most distressing and disturbing nose art that I remember from GW1 was the Jag mate with ‘The Guardian Reader’ emblazoned on the nose!! Absolutely shocking!

mopardave 8th Jan 2021 17:59


Originally Posted by Party Animal (Post 10963363)
The most distressing and disturbing nose art that I remember from GW1 was the Jag mate with ‘The Guardian Reader’ emblazoned on the nose!! Absolutely shocking!

LIke I said, there are limits.......that really is offensive!

Less Hair 8th Jan 2021 18:32

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