"Like the 'Works Unit' sign on the M4..."
Ah yes ........ ...... I know someone who pulled off there to take a look - they can see the junction from a watchtower at the top of the hill and he thought there were probably sensors there as well as it was only a few minutes before security turned up and asked what his problem was...................... |
I had to survey that slip road on/off the M4 each year, never saw anyone at the gated end. Never stopped long enough to see who turned up.
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 10645412)
langleybaston,
You sound like some old East German or North Korean. |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 10643795)
The theatre for these aircraft is the cities, suburbs and back gardens of the UK. Would you think there to be a distinct in theatre ground threat?
I believe that the Liverpool police helicopter was targeted on the ground, before being moved to a more secure hangarage. |
An article in the latest Air Forces Monthly mentions that with the transfer of 651 Squadron to the RAF (and presumably being restyled No.651 Squadron in the process) its aircraft have been redesignated Islander R. Mk.1 and Defender R. Mk.2, It has three and eight of each type respectively along with an unmodified Defender T. Mk.3 and for now remains based at Aldergrove.
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It’s only a matter of time before some ego is careless enough to say something they shouldn’t here. Note the OP has gone quiet, does anyone know them? |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10645675)
The Surrey Police Helicopter was based at Fairoaks for many years but moved to a more secure location after being 'attacked' for a second time by 'travellers' who objected to their 'activities' being observed from the sky as they apparently had something to hide.
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Originally Posted by Countdown begins
(Post 10645783)
It’s only a matter of time before some ego is careless enough to say something they shouldn’t here. Note the OP has gone quiet, does anyone know them? |
Originally Posted by Countdown begins
(Post 10645783)
Note the OP has gone quiet, does anyone know them? Rather off topic, but: At least one Conservative MP doesn't share your concern about paranoia. But is very concerned about the possibility of civilians being shot by NATO military personnel. Perhaps prescient in the 'diplomatic immunity' joker pulled by the wife of someone who works/worked at another 'secret' RAF base. THAT 'secret base' If in doubt, just classify it, remember knowledge is power! |
Beardy? Been around since 2002 and posted on things like Hotmail v other email systems and Ryanair................ 17 years on here might well raise questions about life balance but it isn't suspicious................
Countdown has only been on here since August........................... |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 10646034)
Beardy? Been around since 2002 and posted on things like Hotmail v other email systems and Ryanair................ 17 years on here might well raise questions about life balance but it isn't suspicious................
Countdown has only been on here since August........................... Clearly you don’t serve, or you have just gaffed off your yearly security brief. Let’s hope it’s not you that is found to release something, now naff orf!😂 |
Maybe this site will assuage folks fears about may or may not have been mentioned on this thread and is freely available; remarkable what a quick on-line search throws up. https://www.secret-bases.co.uk/cia-rendition.htm
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Joking aside...................... just because someone has been on here 17 years....................... or more does not clear them to everything you know. It seems good advice........................ as a few G&Ts in there's always that foolish chance...............................
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Originally Posted by finningleyprince
(Post 10646120)
Joking aside, just because someone has been on here 17 years or more does not clear them to everything you know. It seems good advice, as a few G&Ts in there's always that foolish chance.
That aside, there is a culture of unnecessary secrecy and always has been in the services. At times it breeds a silo culture within the military which decreases efficiency. Outside the services it breeds paranoia and destroys trust in those who should be protecting us but can end up being seen as protecting their own interests. It's just too easy and requires no thought to play the 'need to know' card. Don't tell him your name Pike. 😂 |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 10646130)
Good advice, you never know who is following you.
That aside, there is a culture of unnecessary secrecy and always has been in the services. At times it breeds a silo culture within the military which decreases efficiency. Outside the services it breeds paranoia and destroys trust in those who should be protecting us but can end up being seen as protecting their own interests. It's just too easy and requires no thought to play the 'need to know' card. Don't tell him your name Pike. 😂 |
Originally Posted by Countdown begins
(Post 10646189)
I rest my case. Comrade Beardy is a Labour MP!! That is irrelevant to the discussion and not a 'case'. It is a straw man argument which says more about you than me. As an example of silo mentality : There was a time when the presence of a submarine around the Falkland Islands was secret and need to know only. The RAF did not need to know. Until one day a Harrier 'mate' announced in clear he had just seen one, which was then confirmed, in clear, to the one of ours. |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 10646198)
What on earth are you on about?
That is irrelevant to the discussion and not a 'case'. It is a straw man argument which says more about you than me. As an example of silo mentality : There was a time when the presence of a submarine around the Falkland Islands was secret and need to know only. The RAF did not need to know. Until one day a Harrier 'mate' announced in clear he had just seen one, which was then confirmed, in clear, to the one of ours. |
Security:
Captain Blackadder: Can anyone tell me what's going on? Captain Darling: Security, Blackadder. Captain Blackadder: Security? General Melchett: Security isn't a dirty word, Blackadder. Crevice is a dirty word, but security isn't. (Warning to snowflakes - includes bad language) While on the topic of beards: |
The UK’s defence and security is not a joke, and you risk endangering people’s lives. This thread is a disgrace.
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Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 10646198)
What on earth are you on about?
That is irrelevant to the discussion and not a 'case'. It is a straw man argument which says more about you than me. As an example of silo mentality : There was a time when the presence of a submarine around the Falkland Islands was secret and need to know only. The RAF did not need to know. Until one day a Harrier 'mate' announced in clear he had just seen one, which was then confirmed, in clear, to the one of ours. |
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