Originally Posted by Kemble Pitts
(Post 10418503)
The families of innocent victims want to see justice, isn't that good enough in this civilised country of ours?
The Public Interest test is far more nuanced. |
Whilst im uncomfortable with British troops deployed with their hands tied, the number of 'he raised the weapon as if to shoot' copycat testimonies don't enhance our reputation.
Here's another angle. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/...day-soldier-f/ |
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Originally Posted by alwayslookingup
(Post 10418748)
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 10418757)
We know what it means but what is the relevance please?
"The public gets the police force they deserve." |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 10418633)
In a word, No.
The Public Interest test is far more nuanced. |
Just remind me how many para-military 'suspects' were given free cards by Blair ? |
Worth a read https://webarchive.nationalarchives....04/#the-report
Surprised to read that the soldiers fired over 100 times and there was some shooting from the IRA... |
Originally Posted by Brewster Buffalo
(Post 10418834)
Worth a read https://webarchive.nationalarchives....04/#the-report
Surprised to read that the soldiers fired over 100 times and there was some shooting from the IRA... Reading the summary it appears clear Wilford disobeyed orders and sent people in. Now the issue of Military supporting Civilian Authorities has been mentioned in the event a Brexit crash in law and order. Based on the events of Bloody Sunday would the UK population want the Army on the streets. |
Originally Posted by AR1
(Post 10418685)
Whilst im uncomfortable with British troops deployed with their hands tied, the number of 'he raised the weapon as if to shoot' copycat testimonies don't enhance our reputation.
Here's another angle. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/...day-soldier-f/ https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/...-soldiers-too/ |
Why would the UK public base its opinion on troop deployment post-Brexit on Bloody Sunday? |
unarmed British civilians Nobody was shooting at the soldiers and 13 protesters were shot dead, |
Originally Posted by parabellum
(Post 10419272)
No the were not - McGinnis has admitted as much, claiming he may have fired the first shots, not the Para Regt Lt.
Yes, people were firing at the soldiers |
Originally Posted by orca
(Post 10419127)
Why would the UK public base its opinion on troop deployment post-Brexit on Bloody Sunday? |
Putting ANY troops onto the streets is dangerous. Putting an aggressive outfit such as paratroops even more so
It was clear on the day it was an out-of control reaction and the Brits spent years ignoring it. Now its accepted the legal guys swing into ation You can't condone murder but it's a bit much that one poor b****** has to carry the can for everyone else |
Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10419413)
Nope and Bloody Sunday inquiry was clear on that. Not a single weapon was found on any of those who were shote. Army reacted to another army unit firing,
Maybe if the Para's had snuffed McGuinness (smiling as he cynically claimed he'd fired the first shots) out at the start, the following years of violence wouldn't have happened. |
Racedo - whilst I of course respect your opinion that the behaviour of a group of paratroopers on a particular occasion in particular circumstances a significant amount of time ago could effect the British population’s view of generic troop deployment in a generic ‘support to civil power’ scenario - I personally think it’s utter nonsense. |
Perhaps one or two people commenting in this thread should Google "Op Banner" and learn about "peaceful" protest NI style, especially duirng the so called "marching season".
A good record to listen to (banned by both MoD and BBC STILL) Fully expect this to be moderated out :-( |
Sgt Willetts GC. |
Originally Posted by golfbananajam
(Post 10419554)
Perhaps one or two people commenting in this thread should Google "Op Banner" and learn about "peaceful" protest NI style, especially duirng the so called "marching season".
A good record to listen to (banned by both MoD and BBC STILL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOuTNE4_m6k (note this relates to an actual event) Fully expect this to be moderated out :-( My opinion on this subject is irrelevant. I will make one comment. Only those who served during OP Banner during the troubles can ever understand just how terrifying and difficult it was. They have my respect. |
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