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NutLoose 17th Jan 2019 11:41

I do hope the SAS guy in Kenya gets some recognition
 
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...-hero-13863927

:D

Clockwork Mouse 17th Jan 2019 12:56

They don’t get recognition. They avoid it. Their reward is belonging. Consummate professional warriors.

SASless 17th Jan 2019 14:07

They get the right kind of recognition....the silent respectful kind those that know how dedicated these folks are.....what risks they take so often and we never hear about.

SAS and Delta are very much the same in that regard....as the OC Delta who stood up the unit had spent time with SAS and returned to the US Army fully understanding the doctrine by which the SAS operates.

Hand Salute to the Troopers in Kenya.....they once again stood up against them and prevailed.

ShyTorque 17th Jan 2019 15:27

We all need to be grateful that we have people willing to do this for us. Having worked alongside some of them (but only to fly them in and out of where they needed to be), I certainly am.

Less Hair 17th Jan 2019 15:31

Some very courageous Gentleman. You hope to have people like this next to you in a situation like that.

Old-Duffer 18th Jan 2019 06:40

Some years ago, a major and an SNCO from the Hereford Hooligans were sent to a West African country where the was 'a spot of bother' and the big man had been deposed whilst he was out of the country. The two soldiers assessed the situation and, to cut a long story short, enlisted the help of the local army and staged a successful counter coup.

The major was awarded a DSO but I'm not sure what the SNCO received.

Then, of course, there was the incident with the Lufthansa B737 way back in about 1978 or so when two men from Hereford attached themselves to the GSG 9 team. The major on that occasion received, IIRC correctly, an OBE and the NCO a BEM. The NCO wrote a book about it and made a TV programme, where he met the surviving terrorist in Sweden.

Of course during the trouble in Kenya a couple of years ago, a retired officer helped bring the siege of a shopping mall in Nairobi to a conclusion, whilst also saving some people who were in mortal danger - cant remember all the details, something like The Westlands Centre.

Old Duffer

double_barrel 18th Jan 2019 07:04

How do they avoid a blue-on-blue in these circumstances? The Kenyan response was vastly better than in the Westgate catastrophe when the army shot the police response unit and then went on a looting and drinking spree leaving the bad guys bored and frustrated on the top floor. But it was still a very random disorganised response. So I cannot imagine that there was any awareness of the presence of foreign SF guys by the local responders.

Fareastdriver 18th Jan 2019 08:34

I don't know what the S A S's problem is because there are thousands of them. I know this because every other person I meet in a pub has whispered.

"I shouldn't really tell you this, but I used to be in the S A S."

Chris Kebab 18th Jan 2019 09:04

...that might actually say more about the types of boozers you frequent FarEast!

Davef68 18th Jan 2019 09:07


Originally Posted by Old-Duffer (Post 10363755)
Of course during the trouble in Kenya a couple of years ago, a retired officer helped bring the siege of a shopping mall in Nairobi to a conclusion, whilst also saving some people who were in mortal danger - cant remember all the details, something like The Westlands Centre.

First civillian GC (i.e. non-serving Police or Military) since the mid 70s, but the chap was not an ordinary civvie either!

He seems to have been involved again in this attack
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...yan-hotel.html


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...iege-2fsjqzljh

NutLoose 18th Jan 2019 09:09

Did any of you watch the SAS programme last week talking to ex and serving members, it was fascinating, they talked about the plan to go into Argentina to take out the Super Etendards while a couple of them were tasked to pop around the officers mess and kill as many pilots as possible after which they would leg it to Chile and surrender, they were taxying out in the Herc when a new radar was discovered so it was knocked on the head.
They also covered the rescue in Africa of the Army captives held by the West Side Boys, one telling the tale that while it was all going on he brewed up his tea during the firefight,

double_barrel 18th Jan 2019 09:13


Originally Posted by Davef68 (Post 10363859)
First civillian GC (i.e. non-serving Police or Military) since the mid 70s, but the chap was not an ordinary civvie either!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...iege-2fsjqzljh

Lots of tales of this bloke's exploits in Nairobi. Including the time he was out jogging and a couple of thugs tried to rob him at gunpoint. That did not go well for them.

NutLoose 18th Jan 2019 09:29

https://www.britsinkenya.com/2019/01...-george-cross/

Lordflasheart 18th Jan 2019 09:43

Lucky for some ...
 
............

Lucky for some that our hero wasn't out 'shopping' in Waltham Abbey (Essex, UK) last Tuesday afternoon. ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-46895779


Armed police were sent to reports of a woman pulled out of a car at gunpoint, only to learn it was a training exercise run by a private company.
Might have had a slightly different outcome.

............

Tankertrashnav 18th Jan 2019 10:28


I don't know what the S A S's problem is because there are thousands of them. I know this because every other person I meet in a pub has whispered.

"I shouldn't really tell you this, but I used to be in the S A S."
Owning a shop selling militaria for a number of years I used to get "nose tappers" like this on a regular basis. A few well chosen questions would have revealed the truth very quickly, but I just used to let them ramble on, they were harmless, after all.

Hydromet 18th Jan 2019 10:47

At one time my CO, RSM and Chaplain were all ex-SAS. Even the Chaplain was far from the least frightening soldier I've ever met. I've also had SAS as 'enemy' on exercises. Bloody glad they are on our side.

Davef68 18th Jan 2019 11:17


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10363860)
Did any of you watch the SAS programme last week talking to ex and serving members, it was fascinating, they talked about the plan to go into Argentina to take out the Super Etendards while a couple of them were tasked to pop around the officers mess and kill as many pilots as possible after which they would leg it to Chile and surrender, they were taxying out in the Herc when a new radar was discovered so it was knocked on the head.
,

Ewen Southby-Tailyour's account of those operations is worth a read (especially if you have a Knidle as it's just over a £1 at the moment). Less sensational than other accounts.


gr4techie 18th Jan 2019 12:54


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10363827)
I don't know what the S A S's problem is because there are thousands of them. I know this because every other person I meet in a pub has whispered.

"I shouldn't really tell you this, but I used to be in the S A S."

The Iranian Embassy must have one big balcony to fit all the 1000s who claim to have been there !

GeeRam 18th Jan 2019 13:50


Originally Posted by gr4techie (Post 10364034)
The Iranian Embassy must have one big balcony to fit all the 1000s who claim to have been there !

Back then, I used know the ex-SAS NCO that directly rang Hereford from a phone box to tip off the Regt about the siege starting, as my late father was a fellow Met. Police dog handler at the time. I think Dusty was about 4 or 5 years younger than my Dad at the time, so I would think he'll be almost 90 now if he's still with us. I last saw him probably 84/85-ish just before my old man retired from the Met.

The Old Fat One 18th Jan 2019 14:05


... while a couple of them were tasked to pop around the officers mess and kill as many pilots as possible...
...pretty much doing exactly this in North Africa in WW2. If you read the early biographies (I recommend Pleydell's ) not everyone was completely happy about it.


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