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Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 10364491)
albeit only in their reserves for a few months while he revised for his A-level retakes.
I would encourage you to withdraw that statement. Wrongly disparaging another man’s service record is a cheap and low thing to do. We don’t all get the opportunity to be a Lt Col John Frost, but everyone’s service is valuable. EG |
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so ironically this chap will get a bit too much recognition for this caper... |
Originally Posted by Clockwork Mouse
(Post 10363123)
They don’t get recognition. They avoid it. Their reward is belonging. Consummate professional warriors. |
When these guys are awarded some recognition of their bravery , aren't the details mentioned under their original regiments?
Aaron. |
As I understand what I have been told, non commissioned personnel do retain a link with their original regiment and start off as 'Troopers' and are promoted within the Regt after completing selection. The RSM of the Regt, rather like the Academy RSM at Sandhurst and the Garrison Sgt Maj London District, have special terms of service to 'compensate' for not taking a commission and they serve for a much longer period. Officer candidates who pass selection become Troop Cdrs and are ranked Captain. At the end of their tour they go elsewhere but can be invited back as a Major in due course but I suspect that this depends on how they did first time round!
In the Falklands conflict a sqn cdr who was seen/thought not to be keen on attacking the Argentine air base from which Super Etendards operated was removed from command and in Gulf War I, I understand that the RSM was sent to take over from another sqn cdr who wasn't 'pushy' enough. This is all in the public domain, so I'm not 'telling tales out of school'! Old Duffer |
Originally Posted by sitigeltfel
(Post 10364640)
You're being ripped off, €1.04 (£0.92) here !
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack
(Post 10364832)
You can be sure that unpixellated versions of the footage are on the net somewhere, so ironically this chap will get a bit too much recognition for this caper..
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Originally Posted by AARON O'DICKYDIDO
(Post 10365553)
When these guys are awarded some recognition of their bravery , aren't the details mentioned under their original regiments?
Aaron. |
Originally Posted by double_barrel
(Post 10363764)
How do they avoid a blue-on-blue in these circumstances? The Kenyan response was vastly better than in the Westgate catastrophe when the army shot the police response unit and then went on a looting and drinking spree leaving the bad guys bored and frustrated on the top floor. But it was still a very random disorganised response. So I cannot imagine that there was any awareness of the presence of foreign SF guys by the local responders. Back in Nairobi and catching-up on the gossip. It is clear there were indeed blue-on-blue's in this incident too. Our hero gathered a group of Kenyans with him as he went in - I am sure a large part of that was simply to reduce the chance of being shot by friendlies. He must have felt incredibly vulnerable with his rather haphazard dress and a random bunch of trigger-happy locals all around, I suspect the bad guys were the least of his concerns. |
Weve got one in the pub. The stuff he can 'sort out for you through his contacts.
Then again, were all human. I occasionally let slip that I was tail gunner in a harrier. Bravo to the unidentified chap! |
I have been known to mention my time in the SES.
Even did a short stint in 22 SES. Noisy things those Wessex! |
Originally Posted by AARON O'DICKYDIDO
(Post 10365553)
When these guys are awarded some recognition of their bravery , aren't the details mentioned under their original regiments?
Aaron. I think that I am right in saying that the first time the SAS was acknowledged in awards was the Falklands. Certainly the guy ahead of me in the queue to get his gong at BH was announced as such. Mog |
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