I do hope the SAS guy in Kenya gets some recognition
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They don’t get recognition. They avoid it. Their reward is belonging. Consummate professional warriors. |
They get the right kind of recognition....the silent respectful kind those that know how dedicated these folks are.....what risks they take so often and we never hear about.
SAS and Delta are very much the same in that regard....as the OC Delta who stood up the unit had spent time with SAS and returned to the US Army fully understanding the doctrine by which the SAS operates. Hand Salute to the Troopers in Kenya.....they once again stood up against them and prevailed. |
We all need to be grateful that we have people willing to do this for us. Having worked alongside some of them (but only to fly them in and out of where they needed to be), I certainly am.
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Some very courageous Gentleman. You hope to have people like this next to you in a situation like that.
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Some years ago, a major and an SNCO from the Hereford Hooligans were sent to a West African country where the was 'a spot of bother' and the big man had been deposed whilst he was out of the country. The two soldiers assessed the situation and, to cut a long story short, enlisted the help of the local army and staged a successful counter coup.
The major was awarded a DSO but I'm not sure what the SNCO received. Then, of course, there was the incident with the Lufthansa B737 way back in about 1978 or so when two men from Hereford attached themselves to the GSG 9 team. The major on that occasion received, IIRC correctly, an OBE and the NCO a BEM. The NCO wrote a book about it and made a TV programme, where he met the surviving terrorist in Sweden. Of course during the trouble in Kenya a couple of years ago, a retired officer helped bring the siege of a shopping mall in Nairobi to a conclusion, whilst also saving some people who were in mortal danger - cant remember all the details, something like The Westlands Centre. Old Duffer |
How do they avoid a blue-on-blue in these circumstances? The Kenyan response was vastly better than in the Westgate catastrophe when the army shot the police response unit and then went on a looting and drinking spree leaving the bad guys bored and frustrated on the top floor. But it was still a very random disorganised response. So I cannot imagine that there was any awareness of the presence of foreign SF guys by the local responders. |
I don't know what the S A S's problem is because there are thousands of them. I know this because every other person I meet in a pub has whispered.
"I shouldn't really tell you this, but I used to be in the S A S." |
...that might actually say more about the types of boozers you frequent FarEast!
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Originally Posted by Old-Duffer
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Of course during the trouble in Kenya a couple of years ago, a retired officer helped bring the siege of a shopping mall in Nairobi to a conclusion, whilst also saving some people who were in mortal danger - cant remember all the details, something like The Westlands Centre.
He seems to have been involved again in this attack https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...yan-hotel.html https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...iege-2fsjqzljh |
Did any of you watch the SAS programme last week talking to ex and serving members, it was fascinating, they talked about the plan to go into Argentina to take out the Super Etendards while a couple of them were tasked to pop around the officers mess and kill as many pilots as possible after which they would leg it to Chile and surrender, they were taxying out in the Herc when a new radar was discovered so it was knocked on the head.
They also covered the rescue in Africa of the Army captives held by the West Side Boys, one telling the tale that while it was all going on he brewed up his tea during the firefight, |
Originally Posted by Davef68
(Post 10363859)
First civillian GC (i.e. non-serving Police or Military) since the mid 70s, but the chap was not an ordinary civvie either!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g...iege-2fsjqzljh |
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Lucky for some ...
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Lucky for some that our hero wasn't out 'shopping' in Waltham Abbey (Essex, UK) last Tuesday afternoon. ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-46895779 Armed police were sent to reports of a woman pulled out of a car at gunpoint, only to learn it was a training exercise run by a private company. ............ |
I don't know what the S A S's problem is because there are thousands of them. I know this because every other person I meet in a pub has whispered. "I shouldn't really tell you this, but I used to be in the S A S." |
At one time my CO, RSM and Chaplain were all ex-SAS. Even the Chaplain was far from the least frightening soldier I've ever met. I've also had SAS as 'enemy' on exercises. Bloody glad they are on our side.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
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Did any of you watch the SAS programme last week talking to ex and serving members, it was fascinating, they talked about the plan to go into Argentina to take out the Super Etendards while a couple of them were tasked to pop around the officers mess and kill as many pilots as possible after which they would leg it to Chile and surrender, they were taxying out in the Herc when a new radar was discovered so it was knocked on the head.
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
(Post 10363827)
I don't know what the S A S's problem is because there are thousands of them. I know this because every other person I meet in a pub has whispered.
"I shouldn't really tell you this, but I used to be in the S A S." |
Originally Posted by gr4techie
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The Iranian Embassy must have one big balcony to fit all the 1000s who claim to have been there ! |
... while a couple of them were tasked to pop around the officers mess and kill as many pilots as possible... |
Originally Posted by Old-Duffer
(Post 10363755)
Some years ago, a major and an SNCO from the Hereford Hooligans were sent to a West African country where the was 'a spot of bother' and the big man had been deposed whilst he was out of the country. The two soldiers assessed the situation and, to cut a long story short, enlisted the help of the local army and staged a successful counter coup.
The major was awarded a DSO but I'm not sure what the SNCO received. Old Duffer |
Mystery S-92 to the rescue
Well deserved recognition... One of the mystery (albeit contracted out AAR) S-92 that hasbeen sighted in Djibouti and more recently in Syria ...was on scene fast response ....that day Suicide Bombing Kills U.S. Troops In Syria, Mysterious S-92 Helicopter Seen Evacuating Casualties (Updated) - The Drive https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....48780d634.jpeg |
Originally Posted by Davef68
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Ewen Southby-Tailyour's account of those operations is worth a read (especially if you have a Knidle as it's just over a £1 at the moment). Less sensational than other accounts.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00QVZPRBK/ |
Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
(Post 10363827)
I don't know what the S A S's problem is because there are thousands of them. I know this because every other person I meet in a pub has whispered.
"I shouldn't really tell you this, but I used to be in the S A S." CG |
Never tell
I have never has a British special forces member tell me that they have been in one of the units and it is only after knowing the guys for a considerable number of years have I had my suspicions the guys are ex SAS/SBS but even so I have never been told. I even worked on a project that was clearly for the SF and all the guys just said they were attached to the MoD. When someone tells me that they have been part of the special forces I take the view that it is highly unlikely they are as they say . |
When someone tells me that they have been part of the special forces I take the view that it is highly unlikely they are as they say . |
I seem to remember one on a Puma course kept getting his berets nicked.
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Originally Posted by MPN11
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Purchased at £1.19 ... thanks for the heads up. ;) |
Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav
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Owning a shop selling militaria for a number of years I used to get "nose tappers" like this on a regular basis. A few well chosen questions would have revealed the truth very quickly, but I just used to let them ramble on, they were harmless, after all.
" Some time ago " stood on deck waiting to enter Hull from Rotterdam and the tranquillity is rudely shattered when I am joined by a " somewhat dishevelled " individual who asks if I'm "mob " There are times when it's better not to make conversation as we know, and this was one such . Having briefly confirmed I am, he duly informs me he is "SAS mate"and further expands that he's been on an "op " in Germany.....interspersed with repeatedly gobbing over the side....he asks why we are stationary and I mention we are in the lock.....thus his next question was...."wots a lock ?"......I thought it wise not to be too expansive with the answer whilst slowly relocating further up the deck....finally, our hero asks my destination and, as I'm heading for Manchester and he, it turns out, Blackpool, could he, erm, follow me out of ' ull. Could be wrong, but, I think the navigational skills of the SAS do enable them the follow large blue signs saying "Manchester M62 "......priceless as they say. |
I seem to remember one on a Puma course kept getting his berets nicked. |
K&C: Someone was having you on chief!
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Not Wrong There Mate..........
Originally Posted by gr4techie
(Post 10364034)
The Iranian Embassy must have one big balcony to fit all the 1000s who claim to have been there ! I know a bloke who is / was in the TA who once told me the SAS are all well and good, but when it comes to proper hand to hand street fighting they’re rubbish. I saw him recently and as he is still walking the earth I assume he hasn’t put his theory to the test...... Mind you, misunderstandings can occur. I remember the time I was bought loads of beers when I once mentioned I was a member of the SAS during a night out. The mood turned somewhat sour when it became clear I was talking about the Suffolk Antique Society. Didn’t know I could run so fast.......... TN. |
I had a mate who was a 'special copper' ... Diplomatic Protection and other stuff. I knew he was genuine, especially when I saw him on TV looking armed and dangerous in the doorway next to the Iranian Embassy
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Many years ago at a secret ISTAR base in Lincolnshire, there was a joint exercise/briefing, and some members of the SAS and the SBS were to be found in the bar. They were in deep discussion about which unit was the "hardest" when one of the Sqn AEOs (who just happened to have an artificial leg) took out his dinghy knife and stabbed it into his leg (the plastic one) with the comment of "Hard - I'll show you hard". He then limped out. His comment afterwards... "I write off more legs that way.."
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Forgive my cynicism here, but isn't this story too good to be true? He just happened . . . . etc etc.
And there just happened to be a photographer there to take an ideally posed photo of him in action. |
Originally Posted by Wensleydale
(Post 10364792)
Many years ago at a secret ISTAR base in Lincolnshire, there was a joint exercise/briefing, and some members of the SAS and the SBS were to be found in the bar. They were in deep discussion about which unit was the "hardest" when one of the Sqn AEOs (who just happened to have an artificial leg) took out his dinghy knife and stabbed it into his leg (the plastic one) with the comment of "Hard - I'll show you hard". He then limped out. His comment afterwards... "I write off more legs that way.."
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Forgive my cynicism here, but isn't this story too good to be true? He just happened . . . . etc etc. And there just happened to be a photographer there to take an ideally posed photo of him in action. |
Forgive my cynicism here, but isn't this story too good to be true? He just happened . . . . etc etc. |
so ironically this chap will get a bit too much recognition for this caper... |
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