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West Coast 26th Sep 2018 03:11

Not sure if it was this thread or another discussing sub warfare during the Cold War. A poster mentioned he’d seen pictures of a Soviet sub on the surface about to collide with a USN ship. Quite by accident I came across the link below which seems to contain said images.


https://fas.org/blogs/security/2016/...eapons-at-sea/

Pontius Navigator 26th Sep 2018 06:25

WC, that is the one, USS Voge. I was on the kipper fleet then. Not sure where I saw in, Navy Intelligence Review I guess.

Busta 26th Sep 2018 09:08

Interesting bit about Our submarine clocking the Kiev and noting it's characteristics for future reference.

I was delayed on the runway before a routine training flight whilst a land rover handed a re-tasking package through the door. The Kiev had emerged and was in the Atlantic; we were supposed to go find it. We did and got the first pics with the trusty F95. Here's an example

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8929f8f6a2.jpg

Busta 26th Sep 2018 09:23

Sorry about the size of the image; I think we fibbed about the height!

oxenos 26th Sep 2018 10:14

As I remember it, when the Kiev first appeared in 1976, with those two fixed wing aircraft on the rear of the flight deck, we were assured by intelligence that the USSR had no aircraft ready for carrier ops. Therefore they were either mock ups to fool us, or mock ups for the deck crews to get used to handling them. There was some consternation when one of these mock ups took off.

Marcantilan 26th Sep 2018 15:24

Remember me this thread: https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...ictor-iii.html

I have the pic of the sub somewhere. It looks like the image host lost it!

Regards,

Davef68 26th Sep 2018 18:30


Originally Posted by oxenos (Post 10258786)
As I remember it, when the Kiev first appeared in 1976, with those two fixed wing aircraft on the rear of the flight deck, we were assured by intelligence that the USSR had no aircraft ready for carrier ops. Therefore they were either mock ups to fool us, or mock ups for the deck crews to get used to handling them. There was some consternation when one of these mock ups took off.

Presumably the same sources that said they couldn't do rolling take offs, which they then started doing!

MPN11 26th Sep 2018 18:35

The OH saw the first Kiev pictures on the Air Commander's table in Malta in 76 when she was his ADC. Excitement all round.

Pontius Navigator 26th Sep 2018 19:07


Originally Posted by Marcantilan (Post 10259064)
Remember me this thread: https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...ictor-iii.html

I have the pic of the sub somewhere. It looks like the image host lost it!

Regards,

The link says page not found. Was that the one with the whole stern section out of the water in a crash dive?

Marcantilan 26th Sep 2018 19:39


Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator (Post 10259219)
The link says page not found. Was that the one with the whole stern section out of the water in a crash dive?

This one:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9b3904808f.jpg

West Coast 30th Jan 2019 14:53

Additional images of the Soviet sub post impact.

Destroyer Escort Photo Index DE-1047 USS VOGE


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