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Bladdered 12th Aug 2019 11:09

Harri S...h on 36IOT in 1979 had been recoursed to us due to various problems that were not anything to do with his ability or confidence. Harri decided on being recourse that he would play them at their own game and had turban, beard etc. Great guy who went on to fly Hercs, sadly a bit too low over Swindon.

downsizer 12th Aug 2019 12:18

Oddly enough not a single airman under my command who has left in the last 5 or so years has cited the lack of beards as a reason for PVRing.

Parson 12th Aug 2019 13:53

Beards only look right on sailors and Action Man.

NutLoose 12th Aug 2019 16:03

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49313406


So now its out there, will this mean the Navy can have moustaches?

The Army will still need to write to Betty ;)

Prince Harry was given special permission from the Queen to keep his beard during his wedding as he chose to wear his Army uniform during the ceremony.

Brian W May 13th Aug 2019 08:08

Oh well, further degradation of standards. (Don't bother to harangue as it's water off a duck's back)

Perhaps a measure of how difficult recruitment to HM Forces is nowadays.

I can't imagine why . . .

Bladdered 13th Aug 2019 10:48

Grief, it will be tattoos next. Ah, think that's been discussed before.

Eclan 14th Aug 2019 14:26


Originally Posted by The Oberon (Post 10293661)

Different guy. No wings but definitely looks related

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef1134bb69.jpg

camelspyyder 14th Aug 2019 15:36


Originally Posted by Eclan (Post 10544952)
Different guy. No wings but definitely looks related

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef1134bb69.jpg

I did not know Edward Smith was Royalty.

Must have been revealed in a new conspiracy theory about his ship that I haven't read yet.

MPN11 14th Aug 2019 15:53

I have to assume recruiting and retention was going fine in the 60s, otherwise we* would have been allowed shoulder-length hair back then?


* blokes, obviously!

Tankertrashnav 14th Aug 2019 17:32

[QUOTE]I have to assume recruiting and retention was going fine in the 60s, otherwise we* would have been allowed shoulder-length hair back then?[QUOTE]

Just reminded me of an occasion when we were sitting in the mess dining room at Akrotiri having breakfast when 3 very long haired types in flying suits came and sat at an adjacent table. I thought our very stuffy squadron CO was going to have a stroke, as long hair was a bête noire of his. He was just getting up to administer a huge bollocking to the offending blokes when one of our number pointed out that they were a civvy Canberra crew, who I think flew target facilities aircraft for the Navy from Exeter

MPN11 14th Aug 2019 18:10

Nice, TTN. :)

I confess during my quasi-civvy times at NATS I may have exceeded the usual RAF norms. A bit ‘Beatle’ could be a good accusation!

The Oberon 14th Aug 2019 18:49


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 10545027)
I have to assume recruiting and retention was going fine in the 60s, otherwise we* would have been allowed shoulder-length hair back then?


* blokes, obviously!

Quite true, I remember, in 1967, as a young JT at Wittering, piling into my old Ford Zephyr with 5 others and driving across to Spalding to see Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd. Must have looked total prats in kaftans and flares with regulation haircuts

MPN11 14th Aug 2019 19:48


Originally Posted by The Oberon (Post 10545205)
Quite true, I remember, in 1967, as a young JT at Wittering, piling into my old Ford Zephyr with 5 others and driving across to Spalding to see Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd. Must have looked total prats in kaftans and flares with regulation haircuts

Oh, pass the eye bleach! I know exactly how you felt, but by 67 I was at tengah, and close-shorn. It was the heat, you know!. :)

stevef 14th Aug 2019 20:12

Airmen leave because they're not allowed a beard? What! Perhaps they should grow some b****cks instead. God-knows how they'd have survived in the old Number 2 uniforms and had to share a billet & make bed packs once a year for the AOC's inspection. I can feel the snowflakes melting as I type... :ouch:

Bob Viking 14th Aug 2019 22:49

Relaaaaaaaax...
 
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that men feel unable to serve because they are not allowed facial fluff.

The change to the rules is a great example of how the RAF feels able to move with the times a little.

Facial hair is perfectly smart and standards are not slipping because beards are now permitted.

Remember. It’s not wrong. It’s just different.

For the record, I have flown a fast jet whilst adorned with a beard for the past two years and the world has not stopped turning.

May I please repeat. Times have changed. This is not the 1950’s any more. For better or worse.

BV

Runaway Gun 15th Aug 2019 00:21

Yes, but you are a Viking !!!

FantomZorbin 15th Aug 2019 06:54

Do the bearded folk have to cover the beard in Vaseline (other products are available!) before donning a face-wellie?

BEagle 15th Aug 2019 07:17

Presumably someone will produce guidance? Otherwise the RAF could find itself with a few ZZ Top lookalikes...

Pony tails next?

Whenurhappy 15th Aug 2019 07:43


Originally Posted by Eclan (Post 10544952)
Different guy. No wings but definitely looks related

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef1134bb69.jpg

Gosh! Harry's aged a bit

downsizer 15th Aug 2019 10:35


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 10545564)
Presumably someone will produce guidance? Otherwise the RAF could find itself with a few ZZ Top lookalikes...

They have. And we won't.


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