Originally Posted by OldnDaft
(Post 10534895)
Looks like new policy wef 1 Sep 19 - same rules as the Navy. IBN to follow.
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Originally Posted by Melchett01
(Post 10535253)
Oh deep joy. We’re going to be knee deep in SF and SAD operator impersonators. You just know there’ll be one on every camp. |
Originally Posted by GlassCollector
(Post 10535463)
Surely SF will now have to go for a clean shaven / clean cut look in order to differentiate themselves...
And that was the view of a FCO chapess I was having drinks with on det a while back! |
Beards shipmate!
i see that from 1st September RAF personnel will be allowed beards. Pull pin and stand clear! |
That might be ok for the girls but, what about the blokes ?
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Already discussed here: https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...af-beards.html
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That was discussing folks in the past raf who for one reason or another had beards. This was released this week saying all serving personnel could have them. I just reckoned it needed a thread. However if mods want to merge feel free. |
It’s News but I guess the merge makes sense to some. |
What's good enough for Prince Harry..
One reason that "Cold War" beards were not allowed was that the NBC respirator couldn't be guaranteed to seal over a beard. Those "Work of the devil" AR5 Respirators would be OK though - it you could operate efficiently with your head inside a rubber bag, with jets of cold air blowing into your eyes, that is. |
I went to a wedding a year ago,where the groom,an RAF pilot in uniform,was wearing a full (ginger) set.
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Originally Posted by ex82watcher
(Post 10542600)
I went to a wedding a year ago,where the groom,an RAF pilot in uniform,was wearing a full (ginger) set.
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Gizmo,It was not THAT wedding !
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Originally Posted by Capt Kremmen
(Post 10542506)
That might be ok for the girls but, what about the blokes ?
The 1950's just called, apparently they want their sexist back. |
Confirmation that there is nothing military whatsoever about the RAF. RN...tradition at sea. Army..med reasons only. RAF...to widen the pool of civvy recruits that can recruit more civvies in uniform from. |
FFS when will the hierarchy open their eyes and realise that it’s not this sort of **** that will improve recruitment. What will improve it is honouring the Military Covenant, giving the forces the funds to do their job, and increasing the manpower to allow the things that used to make the military an enjoyable and worthwhile “career” and not the short term “job” that it has become. And whist you’re at it bring back Crown Indemnity. |
If we’re talking Aircrew there is no recruitment problem - we’re awash with great recruits. The issue for this cadre in recent years has been training them with a training system designed in 2003, wound back in SDSR10 and then wound back up again in SDSR15. Then in 2017 replacing just about every training aircraft type, simulator and syllabus in about an 18 month window. Guess what? It’s been a total cluster! It’s finally just starting to start churning out what we need. |
will serving personnel be issued with a non permanent marker pen for their id's so they can draw a beard for the days they can't be arsed to shave. |
Wee Stevie, one of 56(F)'s navigators in the early '80s, went flying one night, leaving his car keys, F1250, cash etc. in his SD cap in the locker room....
Came the next day and as he showed his F1250 to the lad on the gate, the latter burst out laughing. "What's so funny, airman?" asked WS.... To which the lad merely showed him the F1250 - a little chinagraph work (courtesy of J***y U**n ?) had transformed it with beard, glasses, long hair and devil's horns. He did at least see the funny side! Back in the '60s, a chap at some nuclear research place got fed up with being required to wear a photo ID on his coat whilst at work. So he modified it with a different photograph.... ...of Nikita Kruschev! It was several weeks before this was noticed, whereupon he was promptly invited to find a new job. |
Originally Posted by BEagle
(Post 10542979)
Wee Stevie, one of 56(F)'s navigators in the early '80s, went flying one night, leaving his car keys, F1250, cash etc. in his SD cap in the locker room....
Came the next day and as he showed his F1250 to the lad on the gate, the latter burst out laughing. "What's so funny, airman?" asked WS.... To which the lad merely showed him the F1250 - a little chinagraph work (courtesy of J***y U**n ?) had transformed it with beard, glasses, long hair and devil's horns. He did at least see the funny side! Back in the '60s, a chap at some nuclear research place got fed up with being required to wear a photo ID on his coat whilst at work. So he modified it with a different photograph.... ...of Nikita Kruschev! It was several weeks before this was noticed, whereupon he was promptly invited to find a new job. had a West Indian mate who worked in the SSA at laarbruch in the 70's, his pass had colour of eyes black, colour of hair blue. Nobody noticed for weeks, the police didn't see the funny side. |
Are the thoughts behind this to encourage more people from minority communities where beards are traditional (rather than a religious requirememt, such as Sikhism) - so potentially more recruits from Arab/South Asian predominantly Muslim backgrounds. Or are they after the hipster youth of today?
Be interested to see if beards are accepted at intial entry, as I understand RN requirements are for clean shaven at that point. |
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