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Stitchbitch 8th Dec 2017 06:03


Originally Posted by Could be the last? (Post 9982711)
Does anyone know which helmet(s) the pilots will be using for the jet?

There’s quite a choice isn’t there. With money to burn, perhaps the over engineered knobbly one plus a night capable one?

melmothtw 8th Dec 2017 06:53


I heard the 24 Typhoons for Qatar are going to come from Approved Used stock (presumably ex-RAF), after an 'upgrade' and re-paint presumably.
So Tranche 1 aircraft? For Qatar, that has money to burn? As far as I am aware, the Tranche 1 cannot be upgraded to a Tranche 2/3, regardless of how much money you throw at it

Doesn't seem likely, but then that's true of so much of Qatar's recent fighter procurement/announcements.

Heathrow Harry 8th Dec 2017 12:31

Well they probably don't expect to use them in action against serious opposition

Right now the main threat is probably Saudi Arabia and if they come calling it'll be ground forces in very large numbers - air superiority is useless if you've only got around 13000 troops

It's really buying political influence.

And they can afford to junk them in 10 years anyway

melmothtw 8th Dec 2017 12:40


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9983381)
Well they probably don't expect to use them in action against serious opposition

Right now the main threat is probably Saudi Arabia and if they come calling it'll be ground forces in very large numbers - air superiority is useless if you've only got around 13000 troops

It's really buying political influence.

And they can afford to junk them in 10 years anyway

As I've said before, if it's all about political influence and keeping friends sweet, buy something that you need, like some tanks or a ship or two.

Lyneham Lad 8th Dec 2017 13:25

According to an article on Aviation Analysis Wing:-


The country has placed an order for 36 Boeing F-15QA strike aircraft from United States for 21.1 USD in November 2016.

In September 2017, a Letter of Intent for acquisition of 24 Eurofighter Typhoon jets were signed between British BAE Systems. The Eurofighter is a consortium of companies from UK, Germany, Italy and Spain.

Currently the Qatar Emiri Air Force operates just 9 single engine Dassault Mirage 2000 multi-role fighters, which will be replaced by 96 twin engined high performance jets from Europe and USA.
Quite a transition! :0 Aircrew? Groundcrew?

Heathrow Harry 8th Dec 2017 13:31

" if it's all about political influence and keeping friends sweet, buy something that you need, like some tanks or a ship or two"

No - if its influence you're after buy something they're desperate to sell to you.............

PDR1 8th Dec 2017 14:06


The country has placed an order for 36 Boeing F-15QA strike aircraft from United States for 21.1 USD
Wow, that's some discount! I make it 58 cents per aeroplane...

PDR

Heathrow Harry 8th Dec 2017 15:36

Just wait for the Spares bill..........................

airpolice 8th Dec 2017 20:24


Originally Posted by PDR1 (Post 9983496)
Wow, that's some discount! I make it 58 cents per aeroplane...

PDR

At last, proof that Warton are overcharging the MOD!

West Coast 8th Dec 2017 20:26


Wow, that's some discount! I make it 58 cents per aeroplane...
Just a little fun at your expense, and yes, I know you get it.


SWBKCB 10th Dec 2017 18:02

Order for 24 Typhoons confirmed today according to Radio 4, plus order for Hawks also expected.

Haven't they also ordered more Rafale's this week as well?

Lyneham Lad 10th Dec 2017 18:06


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 9985587)
Order for 24 Typhoons confirmed today according to Radio 4, plus order for Hawks also expected.

Haven't they also ordered more Rafale's this week as well?

Report on BBC News now as well.

gr4techie 11th Dec 2017 09:13

Good news for R̶A̶F̶ ̶ BAE Coningsby, could fund another large building or two.
If only those pesky RAF Airmen didn't get in the way! By wanting to use their carpark or sitting in the Junior Ranks cafe.

jindabyne 11th Dec 2017 09:16

Good news. Well done Eurofighter and BAES.

TBM-Legend 11th Dec 2017 09:17

So who will fly and maintain this fleet of diverse jets?

Heathrow Harry 11th Dec 2017 09:54

British mercenaries made redundant from the RAF in the next Defence Revue

PDR1 11th Dec 2017 10:03


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9986251)
British mercenaries made redundant from the RAF in the next Defence Revue

A "Revue" is a stage show in which a bunch of (usually scantily-clad) dancers ponce around on a stage with singing and dancing without actually achieving anything useful. A "Review" is a management event in which current status is compared to current requirement with a view to planning future needs.

I was aware that Dr Fox conducted one of the former events in 2010, but I was not aware that any more were planned...

PDR

Heathrow Harry 11th Dec 2017 10:07

Honestly I know the difference - and the next one will bring an even greater stretching of people, cancellation of kit and mealy -mouthed hand ringing dressed up as "strengthening the UK's Defenses"

So yes - a Revue

PS Something in today's Times saying the Armed Services want an extra £ 4 Bn pronto to tide them over to the next Revue/Review

GrahamO 11th Dec 2017 10:28


Originally Posted by Roadster280 (Post 9981965)
With a population of only 3M, are they going to find enough competent pilots?


The Qatari population is barely 300,000


Exclude 100,000 who are too young or too old.


Exclude the ladies of Qatar who haven't been known to get a hangnail unless someone does it for them, and you're down to 100,000 maximum.


Their land army is mostly mercenaries from African ally states so I cannot see how they will ever use all 72 aircraft - they bought a load of Leopard 2 MBtanks most of which are in storage.


Its a pure leverage buy - no way can they use them without using third country nationals and would you put a state of the art aircraft in the hands of a foreigner whom you pay a pittance who could fly to Iran and be greeted with open arms and a fat cheque ?

Heathrow Harry 11th Dec 2017 12:26

But Iran is supporting Qatar.................. anything to irritate Riyadh


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