UN=League of Nations

unless your belief is a couple of border guards with sidearms will stealthily remove the fat wun, do you believe the Norks won't somehow notice the build up of forces on their border? You think the Norks haven't noticed the degrading relationship with the Chinese? The Chinese have been on the receiving end of NK propaganda, so they are willing to bite the hand that feeds them.

Knowing that your idea would require a significant build up of forces to assure success, which would attract attention, do you think the fat wun wouldn't unleash his nuclear fury on the Chinese if he believed they were intent on unseating him? What's to stop him?

Lord Riot,


Such an operation only makes sense when there is (yet in a dark shadow) a prepared and well-controlled opposition group with appropriate leader that would quicky take and hold the power. This is to avoid chaos. Otherwise, one bad fat Un would be replaced by even worse one. Looks like such an alternative is not yet ready. And anyway, it is only China who can raise such figures, not US, Russia, Europe, to say nothing about Japan and SK who are hatred by definition in NK.

The Allied forces didn't notice it in October 1950.

The Chinese already have substantial forces in that part of China. Historically because of Korea but also confronting Russia when they weren't pals.

"one bad fat Un would be replaced by even worse one"

Thats a frightenign thought - that the Young Leader isn't the worst of the pack..................

The usual result in such circumstances is chaos - as in Iraq, Libya or Rumania. Dictators have a strong habit and incentive in eliminating anyone with the ability or character to be a suitable replacement and promoting yes men instead.

Romania didn't decline into chaos - it had a relatively simple trip form Dictatorship to a communist/socialist/ military Govt and eventually became a (sort-of) democracy albeit with high levels of corruption

In fact the beloved Leader and his Mrs were shot BECAUSE the other power groups wanted their mouths firmly closed ................

I'm still not sure that Kim isn't just a puppet for the generals and/or committees

Fareastdriver.

This isn't 1950, surveillance capabilities are a wee bit better. Not exactly sure why you'd even attempt to make a comparison. All they'd have to do is monitor western 24 hr cable channels

And yes, Chinese forces were known to the UN prior to entering NK. The Chinese telegraphed the move.

US Flies Stealth Fighters, Bombers Over Korean Peninsula For Drill: Seoul

And

US: N Korea to be 'destroyed' if behaviour continues
UN Ambassador Haley warns Pyongyang 'a whole lot of military options' are being considered to defend US and allies.
US: N Korea to be 'destroyed' if behaviour continues | USA News | Al Jazeera

Will the lardy lunatic back down? I doubt it.

How many rockets has the Phat Wun launched since puberty?
How much does each cost?
Where does all this money come from as they don't sell anything?
Has he got any money/rockets left?
Why hasn't anyone 'flannelled' him with some toxic chemical FFS?

https://goo.gl/images/JloLjd
Knock off everything except defence and bob's your uncle

Ummmm, no. The Chinese build up of forces was well observed and well known. The powers that be just assumed the Chinese would never actually attack because it was assumed such an attack was certain to trigger a nuclear response from the US. Nine bombs complete with nuclear cores and nuclear capable delivery B-29 bombers were forward deployed to Okinawa. But the Chinese figured the US was bluffing and attacked. The Chinese were right. No nukes ever made it into the Korean theater.

It was probably just as well, because over a 160 kilotons of conventional bombs had been dropped on North Korea. There were very few significant targets left.

Ummm, no. North Korea exports lots and lots of coal as well as other minerals. Mostly to China. They also export technology. Iran has reportedly paid huge bucks for North Korean nuclear and rocket technology.

It gets better :E:E

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-even-for-him/

I do not care for Mr Trump's rhetorical style. I prefer TR's "walk softly and carry a big stick." I see a bit too much trash talk, and a bit too much "reality TV" to be happy with style.
The fact is, yeah, if a can of whoopass is to be opened, it's rather bad to be on the wrong side of it.
Without Russian and Chinese support, however, since we live in a multi power, multi polar world, there are some side effects to whoopass cans being opened that I hope Mr Trump is aware of.

And let's not forget massive, ginormous statues loved by somewhat democratic leaders:

North Korea's 'biggest' export - giant statues - BBC News

The lardy Kim isn't budging yet:

North Korea says sanctions will accelerate nuclear programme - BBC News

Me too.

Sadly, over a half century of experience shows that that style does not work for the North Koreans. It goes right over their head. Let's see if "trash talk" along with some very obvious military shows of force is more effective. I suspect not, but it's worth a try. But if this is not effective, the alternative is downright grim.

I'm hoping the the people who are really in charge of the US Military (ie the Generals) are advising the President that a pre-emptive strike would probably not be the best action in the circumstances.


I'm also hoping that they are advising that in the event of NK lobbing something in the general direction of Guam, then any retaliatory action should be proportionate.


Its a tad worrying when 'General Ripper' is the C in C rather than the 'mad general'.

Actually, I'm hoping that the cronies surrounding the young Phat Un are warning him the response could be anything but "proportionate" - if NK detonates a nuke anywhere outside of NK, expect NK to cease to exist.
I really think that's the only thing young Phat Un understands...