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Tashengurt 15th Jul 2016 20:21

Turkey coup?
 
News channels reporting a possible coup ongoing in Turkey.
This could get unpleasant quickly.

Rosevidney1 15th Jul 2016 20:44

We live in increasingly 'interesting' times, I'm afraid. :-(

Wander00 15th Jul 2016 20:48

Which lot, left, right or Kurds?

denachtenmai 15th Jul 2016 20:53

looks like the army:ooh:

Bo Nalls 15th Jul 2016 20:58

Turkish Air Force conducting Shows of Presence and other breaking news Turkey coup: military attempt to seize power from Erdogan as low flying jets and gunfire heard in Ankara and bridges across Bosphorus in Istanbul closed

TEEEJ 15th Jul 2016 21:05

Footage of low F-16s.




Willard Whyte 15th Jul 2016 21:14

Smells of Putin.

The Sultan 15th Jul 2016 21:16

Eragon now then move against ISIS. Win-Win.

The Sultan

JAVELINBOY 15th Jul 2016 21:19

This will delay their entry to the EU, good job we are leaving

sitigeltfel 15th Jul 2016 21:24

At the end of March all US military dependants in Turkey were told to leave the country.

Hundreds of military dependents ordered to leave Turkey - Europe - Stripes

Did somebody get a tip-off?

Rigga 15th Jul 2016 21:27

Yes, I wonder how Angela will get her EU Subs from them now?

Above The Clouds 15th Jul 2016 21:33


Originally Posted by JAVELINBOY (Post 9441202)
This will delay their entry to the EU, good job we are leaving

Angela Merkels idea of a rosy Europe is not looking too good right now, I hope she is having a real soul searching time tonight.

Wander00 15th Jul 2016 21:33

Many instances since Ataturk of the army stepping in when things get out of hand. The army has always tried to maintain the secularisation of the Turkish state. In this case Erdogan has gone too far towards an Islamic state, oppression of the press, stamping out of dissent. Hope no lives are lost

unmanned_droid 15th Jul 2016 21:47

I find it difficult to get to grips with the fact that I (along with many others...) were watching Solo Turk a week ago at FFD. On reflection, I don't know why really, they could not have known this was going to kick-off. As I understand it, the military is something of a democratic rudder in Turkey, and from time to time is used to bring things back on course. Hopefully this will end well, and quickly.

Some of the 'Turkey is great' messages in the commentary seem to have a different edge to them now!

Treble one 15th Jul 2016 22:00

Looks like F-16s on the videos? Show of force?

unmanned_droid 15th Jul 2016 22:04

Yep, and there's a video out there of a helicopter (I believe an attack helicopter firing main gun, given the noise and accuracy) firing on a building

RAFEngO74to09 15th Jul 2016 23:13

Helicopter supporting the coup shot down by F-16 - reported on CNN in USA.

RAFEngO74to09 15th Jul 2016 23:21

MBTs and AFVs on the streets - martial law declared.

Coup military in control of main TV station - seen in pictures from station.

Prime Minister safe - used mobile phone to get message to loyal civilians to get on the streets.

Civilians demonstrating against the coup shot by (presumably) coup participants - unfolded live on TV.

US CNN Live coverage has multiple cameras.

US President + Secretary of State have stated support for the elected government.

RAFEngO74to09 15th Jul 2016 23:52

Amazing scenes.

In one part of Ankara you see thousands of civilians on the streets with flags congratulating the military who appear to be in support of the government.

Elsewhere, you see many thousands of civilians, massed on a 6-lane highway, blocking the path of coup sympathetic tanks with soldiers firing in the air.

17 police reported killed by helicopter gunship (according to government sources) [this was prior to the reported helicopter shootdown].

fallmonk 16th Jul 2016 00:21

Am sure it will be fine ,
Boris to the rescue! 😜

RAFEngO74to09 16th Jul 2016 01:34

You couldn't make this up !

Live on the phone from the CNN Editor in Chief in Istanbul:

Coup soldiers land in a helicopter in the parking lot of the CNN building.

The soldiers take over the building and order the anchor of the air at gunpoint.

The building gets surrounded by numerous pro-government supporters.

The pro-government police arrive and arrest the coup soldiers.

The police are now protecting the coup soldiers in the building from the demonstrators outside.

Elsewhere live coverage of coup soldiers being frog-marched off 2:1 by armed "police" in irregular clothes.

Tashengurt 16th Jul 2016 01:43

Interesting footage of soldiers being confronted by a crowd. One fires into the air but clearly has no will to go further as the crowd end up passing him.
Wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

NutLoose 16th Jul 2016 02:07


A senior US military source tells NBC News that Erdogan, refused landing rights in Istanbul, is reported to be seeking asylum in Germany. The report could not immediately be independently confirmed.
1,000,001........

RAFEngO74to09 16th Jul 2016 02:14

Helicopter firing on civilians:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ47KpPKkM

NutLoose 16th Jul 2016 02:37


In the UK, Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said he was “very concerned” about the events.
Not exaclty having a quiet first couple of days in the job.

Reports saying things improving


A lawyer for the Turkish government says "there are indications of direct involvement" in the coup attempt of a cleric who is living in exile in Pennsylvania.

Robert Amsterdam said in a statement Friday evening that he and his firm "have attempted repeatedly to warn the U.S. government of the threat posed" by Fethullah Gulen and his movement.

He says that according to Turkish intelligence sources, "there are signs that Gulen is working closely with certain members of military leadership against the elected civilian government."

The president of a group that promotes Gulen's ideas denied the charges.

Y. Alp Aslandogan of the New York-based Alliance for Shared Values tells The Associated Press "we categorically deny such accusations and find them to be highly irresponsible."

Earlier in the evening, the alliance said, "we condemn any military intervention in (the) domestic politics of Turkey."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartanntp

RAFEngO74to09 16th Jul 2016 03:06

Seems to be pretty much over now - poorly executed at a relatively low level (colonel level is the guess at present from US TV armchair experts). US former military officers calling Turkish mates at one-star level and above being told they have no idea WTF is going on or who started it.

When it came to it, and a tank seen on TV was surrounded by literally thousands of civilians, the co-ax gun was fired above their heads without effect rather than at them and then the tank crew accepted they weren't going anywhere.

There have been casualties, initially civilians on the Bosphorus Bridge as televised, and various reports of loud explosions either tank main armament or helicopter borne munitions near the Parliament building.

RAFEngO74to09 16th Jul 2016 03:12

Turkish PM has ordered that any outstanding aircraft hijacked by coup forces are to be shot down. Aircraft scrambled from Eskisehir.

RAFEngO74to09 16th Jul 2016 03:15

Prosecutor's Office has stated that at least 42 killed - including the 17 police mentioned earlier exchanging fire with the helicopter.

t43562 16th Jul 2016 03:45

Well, I got to hear some very low jet passes last night! Nothing else fortunately.

RAFEngO74to09 16th Jul 2016 04:12

F-16s attacking coup manned tanks near Presidential Palace in Ankara.

Around 50 coup personnel abandoned their tanks on the Bosphorus Bridge, layed down their small arms and surrendered to police. The few police guarding the tanks and weapons were unable to stop some of the civilians making off with small arms according to eye witnesses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS3iaE3xUSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEFr6t5etUk

TBM-Legend 16th Jul 2016 05:06

Good for promotion in the Turkish Armed Forces now that a cadre of senior/middle level officers etc have "retired"....

Lantern10 16th Jul 2016 06:26

Graphic scenes.
Wild mob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNY7cWLx-l4

peter we 16th Jul 2016 06:51


This will delay their entry to the EU, good job we are leaving
Turkey has been blocked from EU entry for 40 years, any EU state can and has veto entry. Explain how Turkey is EVER going to join the EU, its impossible.

t43562 16th Jul 2016 07:34


Turkey has been blocked from EU entry for 40 years, any EU state can and has veto entry. Explain how Turkey is EVER going to join the EU, its impossible.
I don't feel safe to use names etc but I don't imagine that those in power at the moment want to be part of the EU at all - this seems to me to be the most significant barrier. They talk about it a bit but there's no enthusiasm for any of the reforms that are needed - especially the ones concerning the press etc.

charliegolf 16th Jul 2016 10:12

Helicopter +8 reported landed in Greece asking for asylum. Ironic eh?

NutLoose 16th Jul 2016 10:24

Probably the first genuine cases of asylum seekers Greece has had in a while.

Wander00 16th Jul 2016 12:39

Sadly I suspect some Turkish officers will find themselves literally with their backs to the wall. Whether the attempt will be enough to divert Erdogan from his present move towards an Islamic state I doubt.

wub 16th Jul 2016 14:13

BBC reporting that Incirlik Airbase has been blockaded and the power turned off.

glad rag 16th Jul 2016 14:13


Originally Posted by peter we (Post 9441539)
Turkey has been blocked from EU entry for 40 years, any EU state can and has veto entry. Explain how Turkey is EVER going to join the EU, its impossible.

As of 2013/2014 it was 982,000,000 euros and rising.

Simplythebeast 16th Jul 2016 14:14

Incirlik. I wouldnt be surprised if there are Nuclear weapons stored there.


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