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It would be a good excuse to stem the flow of refugees.
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Well, Turkey and Russia appear to favor opposing sides in the latest events over Nagorno-Karabakh.
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Originally Posted by unmanned_droid
(Post 10894220)
Well, Turkey and Russia appear to favor opposing sides in the latest events over Nagorno-Karabakh.
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Originally Posted by West Coast
(Post 10894404)
And in Libya as well.
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
(Post 10894121)
So do the US fear to loose Turkey to Russia?
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Could make things even more interesting as Turkey attempts to use their navy to interfere with gas exploration in the eastern Med. They can try and push Cyprus around, not sure about Israel....https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...ar-6-warships/
Israel shifts naval doctrine with new Sa’ar 6 warships JERUSALEM — Israel will receive the first of four Sa’ar 6 ships in December as part of a broad shift in naval doctrine that will see the country defend more areas at sea at a longer distance for a longer period of time, according to the Israel Defense Forces. The coming shift in maritime activity comes in the wake of Israel signing a pipeline deal with Cyprus and Greece in the summer, and joining an Eastern Mediterranean gas forum with Cyprus, Greece, Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority. It also comes amid new investments in Israeli’s Haifa Port that could involve the United Arab Emirates; the two countries recently agreed to improve relations. A Nov. 11 ceremony will see the Israeli flag replace the German flag on the ship, which was made in Kiel, Germany, by Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems. The IDF expects the Sa’ar 6 to defend offshore infrastructure — making up an area over twice the size of Israel’s land territory. The discovery of natural gas reserves and Israel’s desire to protect its exclusive economic zone were the main motivations behind the 2013 decision to order the ships. The gas rigs and sea infrastructure, including Israel’s Karish-Tanin, Leviathan and Tamar fields, are essential and must be defended, the IDF has said. “According to assessments, terror armies in our region possess the ability to fire high-trajectory rockets of a wide range that are able to reach the gas rigs,” the IDF explained. “We want to deter enemies from even aiming at the rigs. It [the Sa’ar 6] has an enormous radar so it can be a standalone unit. Abilities and probability of protection increases, as it is connected to Iron Dome, David’s Sling and other air defense. If it detects threats, it can transfer data to land networks to engage targets.” Gas rigs are vulnerable strategic platforms; one missile strike could be catastrophic. In addition, the IDF said, the Navy reports Israel receives 98 percent of its imports by sea. The commander of the Israeli Navy, Maj. Gen. Eli Sharvit, also noted that “the mission of defending Israel’s exclusive economic zone and strategic assets at sea is the primary security mission of the Israeli Navy. These assets are essential to the operational continuity of the State of Israel, and having the ability to protect them holds critical importance.”...... |
https://www.defensenews.com/congress...-defense-bill/
Sanctioning Turkey over the S-400 would be mandatory in new defense bill WASHINGTON ― The final version of the must-pass annual defense policy bill unveiled Thursday mandates the U.S. president sanction Turkey for its acquisition of the S-400 air missile defense system. Though President Donald Trump has held off sanctioning Turkey for the purchase under the 2017 Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, or CAATSA, the defense bill would order that five or more sanctions under CAATSA be imposed within 30 days. The duty would fall to the Trump administration unless the bill is signed after next week. Otherwise it would fall to President-elect Joe Biden, who is due to be inaugurated Jan. 20. NATO says the S-400s pose a threat to the military alliance and particularly endanger the technical secrets of the F-35 aircraft. The language, sought by Democrats and the Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Jim Risch, would determinethat Turkey’s $2.5 billion purchase of the S-400 constitutes a “significant transaction” under CAATSA, which offers a range of sanctions against any nation procuring a major defense article from Russia. The president can lift the sanctions when he can certify that Turkey no longer has an S-400 system. The bill also includes authorization for the U.S. military to use the six F-35 aircraft that had been accepted by Turkey before the country was expelled from the F-35 program over the S-400 purchase. Senate Foreign Relations Committee ranking member Bob Menendez, D-N.J., was among lawmakers hailed the inclusion of the language in the $740.5 billion, 4,517-page National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA. “Incredibly proud to have helped secure inclusion of a provision in the NDAA to do what President Trump refused to do: Officially determine on behalf of the U.S. [government] that #Turkey took delivery of Russian S-400 defense systems and therefore will be sanctioned under existing law,” Menendez said in a tweet..... |
https://thediplomat.com/2020/12/us-s...-and-concerns/
US Sanctions Turkey Over Russian Air Defense System, Raising Questions and Concerns https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...s-400-n1251228 |
https://www.politico.eu/article/turk...canal-project/
Turkey detains retired admirals for open letter criticizing canal project Turkey detained ten retired admirals after an open letter voicing worry that the government’s Canal Istanbul plans could undermine the 1936 Montreux Convention. Ankara sees the letter signed by more than 100 retired navy officers and posted online as reminiscent of past coups. The most recent Turkish coup attempt was in 2016. The letter voiced concern over Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s plan to create a new waterway, Istanbul Canal, between the Black Sea and the Sea of Marmara to ease maritime flows through the Bosporus and Dardanelles. The proposal is seen by some as challenge to the Montreux Convention, which regulates the right of passage through the straits. The international treaty allows all commercial ships to sail through the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits and limits the passage of foreign warships. “We are of the opinion to refrain from any kind of rhetoric or action that could make the Montreux Convention… a matter of controversy,” the letter says. The public prosecutor in charge of terrorism is now investigating the signatories for “agreement to commit crimes against the security of the state,” according to state-run Anadolu Agency, and called on four other retired officers to turn themselves in within three days. The prosecutor is investigating whether the officers have any links to serving members of the military. |
https://www.politico.eu/article/cypr...rkey-invasion/
In Cyprus, Erdoğan provokes on anniversary of Turkish invasion Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is marking the 47th anniversary of his country’s invasion of Cyprus with provocations for a new age: a new town on land the international community says is not his, a new government complex and a proposal the international community rejects.… |
https://www.defensenews.com/2021/09/...d-jet-program/
Turkey wants compensation for ouster from US-led jet program ANKARA, Turkey (AP) — Turkey intends to seek compensation for its removal from a U.S.-led stealth fighter jet program, possibly during a meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden on the margins of a Group of 20 meeting next month, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.…. Erdogan said he hoped to meet Biden at the G-20 meeting in Rome to discuss the F-35 project, including a $1.4 billion payment Turkey had made before its ousteing from the program. Another meeting between the Turkish and U.S. leaders could also take place on the sidelines of a November climate conference in Glasgow, Scotland, Erdogan said. “We made a $1.4 billion payment, what will become of that?” Erdogan said. “We did not - and do not - earn this money easily. Either they will give us our planes or they will give us the money.” Asked about Turkey’s plans to purchase additional S-400 systems despite threats of further U.S. sanctions, Erdogan responded: “The S-400 process continues. There is no turning back.” His comments were reported by the private Turkish news channel NTV and other media….. The U.S. also sanctioned Turkey for its purchase under a 2017 law aimed at pushing back Russian influence. The move was the first time that the law, known as CAATSA, was used to penalize a U.S. ally. Erdogan’s talks with Putin in the Black Sea resort of Sochi focused on steps that would deepen defense cooperation between Turkey and Russia, including partnerships for aircraft engines, fighter jets and submarines, the Turkish leader said. Russia also could be involved in the construction of Turkey’s second and third nuclear power plants, and of a space launch platform, he said.….. |
https://www.ft.com/content/0fbd6226-...c-15fb65ec2394
Turkey’s search for fighter jets puts Biden in a bind https://www.al-monitor.com/originals...buy-more-f-16s Is Erdogan testing Biden with request to buy more F-16s? |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11126293)
https://www.ft.com/content/0fbd6226-...c-15fb65ec2394
Turkey’s search for fighter jets puts Biden in a bind |
Originally Posted by tdracer
(Post 11126476)
The Financial Times article is behind a paywall - can you post a quick summary?
https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-us/bide...inancial-times It would seem a good idea not to force Turkey further away from "The West", if at all possible. |
Tdracer,
Using the FT Twitter link seems to bypass the firewall…. |
It doesn't bypass it for me, Orac!
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
(Post 11127167)
It doesn't bypass it for me, Orac!
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Erdogan is threaten to attack Greece.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ds-2022-09-03/ France says that if Turkey attacks they will intervene. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11292560)
Erdogan is threaten to attack Greece.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ds-2022-09-03/ France says that if Turkey attacks they will intervene. |
Potentially huge deals ahead, but requires multinational approval, may be problematic if Turkey holds up NATO accession for Sweden and Finland.
EXCLUSIVE: Turkey exploring massive UK arms deal involving planes, ships and tank engines • Two squadron of Eurofighter jets • C-130J cargo planes • Three frigates • Engines for M-60 tanks 💈The discussions continue, they aren’t in final stage |
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