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Nige321 7th Jan 2017 09:41


XM655 at Wellesbourne Mountford is the only authentic Vulcan which is still routinely run and taxyed.
Not for long if the owners and their developers get their way... :mad:

BEagle 7th Jan 2017 10:36

You're out of date:

Action has been taken by Stratford-on-Avon District Council to prevent the demolition of buildings at Wellesbourne Mountford aerodrome. The council’s ruling cabinet agreed to remove permitted development rights from the site owners, the Littler family. The decision took immediate effect and is now in force. The council's cabinet also decided to seek powers to compulsorily purchase the airfield if negotiations with the owners fail and to obtain an injunction if any attempt is made to start the demolition process. The Littler family has since agreed to keep the airfield open until further notice.

Nige321 7th Jan 2017 12:45


You're out of date:
I do know about that.
Sadly, the locals don't believe a word of it.
Most are in favour of keeping the airfield and 655 alive, but anyone who knows anything about the developers knows they won't give up...:uhoh:

noflynomore 7th Jan 2017 13:06


the only authentic Vulcan
I am intrigued by that statement as it implies that there are "non-authentic Vulcan/s" out there, taxiing.

What on earth could a non-authentic Vulcan be? - Airfix kit? Leonard Nimoy?

Pontius Navigator 7th Jan 2017 17:58

Nfnm, one with original equiments like Tacan replaced with VOR, with the navigation racks bare, the very heart of the Bomber, rather than the aerodynamic body that performed party tricks at airshows.

noflynomore 8th Jan 2017 11:45

There must be precious few "authentic" historic aircraft in existence at all by that definition!
Blimey! I never knew!

Pontius Navigator 8th Jan 2017 13:38

nfn, when I visited the RAF Museum Reserve collection I was told that the RAF Museum insisted on restoration to original flight condition although obviously not to modern standards.

It is a few years since I was in the Newark Vulcan. From what I can remember many of the Calcs in the nose wheel bay might have been missing and the 90-way/ER panel was missing from the cockpit but the NBS was there with the cockpit looking complete; that is the point, as much original equipment as possible.

pontifex 9th Jan 2017 09:23

NFM

There is one such authentic aircraft that I know of, and that is the BBMF Lancaster. I cannot think of any equipment in that old lady that is not authentic - and this often made life quite challenging. In contrast is the Canadian Mynarski Lanc. For a start it has modern nav gear amongst many other aids to safe flying. I quite understand the purist's desire to keep things as "pure" as possible, but not at the expense of flight safety.

ORAC 9th Jan 2017 10:29

Tatjana van Vark ~ Navigation and Bombing System NBS

50+Ray 9th Jan 2017 10:47

Authentic NBS
XM594 at Newark has the 90 way fitted. The only missing bits I am aware of are in the AEOs station, e.g. 18228 display & some jamming/HF blanks.
Ray

flapsin 9th Jan 2017 11:09


Originally Posted by pontifex (Post 9634800)
NFM

There is one such authentic aircraft that I know of, and that is the BBMF Lancaster. I cannot think of any equipment in that old lady that is not authentic - and this often made life quite challenging. In contrast is the Canadian Mynarski Lanc. For a start it has modern nav gear amongst many other aids to safe flying. I quite understand the purist's desire to keep things as "pure" as possible, but not at the expense of flight safety.

Doesn't the BBMF Lancaster have fins and rudders from a Lincoln?

spanners123 9th Jan 2017 11:18


Originally Posted by flapsin (Post 9634896)
Doesn't the BBMF Lancaster have fins and rudders from a Lincoln?

And doesn't the BBMF Lancaster have Shackleton undercarriage fitted??

Heinrich Dorfmann 9th Jan 2017 11:32

and a 2nd set of flight controls?

Pontius Navigator 9th Jan 2017 11:37

And Pontiflex, unless they have removed it, we also had TACAN mounted tdc on the coaming.

RedhillPhil 9th Jan 2017 13:48

Well to get really picky I believe that the BBMF Lancaster has Shackleton wing spars.

NutLoose 9th Jan 2017 14:03


Doesn't the BBMF Lancaster have fins and rudders from a Lincoln?
Correct for the time period she was built in and original to her I believe.

The Mk X1X Spits of the BBMF are all flying with modified Shack powerplants.

Stitchbitch 9th Jan 2017 16:00

Keep this under your hat, the Nav uses a GPS... ;)

Phil_R 9th Jan 2017 16:36

Just following along, here. What's a 90-way?

Pontius Navigator 9th Jan 2017 17:01

Phil, an advance over the 12/24 way.

Basically a fiendish bomb selector the can be used to select single bombs, some bombs, all the bombs etc.

On a Vulcan for instance the 1000 lb bombs were in two layers, 12 at the top 9 at the bottom. You could chose any one of those 9 for single release etc.

It also allowed you select the drop interval between bombs.

The standard mantra was Zero Press, Zero Press which ensured that the bomb release signal was always sent to the first available bomb. For a single bomb,IIRC, you would set the Stop to One.

*note to self, visit Newark for a refresher.

md 600 driver 9th Jan 2017 17:12

The BBMF HAS DUAL CONTROLS which is a recent modification

all lancs in the war didn't have a copilot or a method of dual controls


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