Ask Princess Anne - she never did a day in the services |
A fair few medals for a few weeks at Lympstone:
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Please DO NOT start on HRH The Princess Royal. She is probably the hardest working of the Royals, and is Patron or whatever of about 650 organisations, Royal Colonel of a number of regiments, and a "good egg" to boot. Visited an organisation of which I was effectively Ch Exec a number of times and impressive every time, as was the Admiral, her husband. Rant over!
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Lymp what?
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Wot is his cap badge - does not look like RN?
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Wot is his cap badge - does not look like RN? |
A fair few medals for a few weeks at Lympstone: Wot is his cap badge - does not look like RN? |
Commodore in Chief, Royal Fleet Auxiliary, I suggest.
Letters R F A visible in the circlet, if you zoom in. |
I believe the uniform above is that of Commodore-in-Chief of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary.
You beat me to it MPN11 :ok: HRH is also Honorary Air Commodore Royal Air Force Waddington |
Back to CV. I doubt very much if she asked for either uniform or rank. Someone with clout must have made the suggestion and she probably felt it would be churlish to refuse.
A vowel please maám. |
Wander00 wrote
Wot is his cap badge - does not look like RN? Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
A fair few medals for a few weeks at Lympstone: His medal haul for his short period of military service was zero (as I'm sure you knew). My only moan at Princess Anne is she will insist on those bloody awful uniform trousers. I stopped a female RN officer in Tesco's recently and complemented her on her very smart appearance, including skirt. She agreed that the skirt looks a lot smarter than the strides. Got a bollocking from Mrs TTN later, but it was worth it ;) |
TEEJ - thanks, can see it now
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a female RN officer in Tesco's |
Unlikely if she was based at Culdrose - nearest Waitrose is at Saltash which is 65 miles away. Waitrose knows we're all too skint in Cornwall to be bothered opening down here!
But I take your point! |
There doesn't seem to have been the same issues when Gp Capt Sir Chris Hoy was given the same role in 2013.......:confused:
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They should give them all honorary wings too; if they're going to do it they might as well give them a few more badges.
Chat, recontrer les pigeons :} |
There doesn't seem to have been the same issues when Gp Capt Sir Chris Hoy was given the same role in 2013....... Other than the royals, I'd missed those honorary appointments. |
I seem to recall a certain prime minister who held the appointment between 1940 and 1945 who was fond of wearing light blue, dark blue or green uniform as he felt necessary.
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Martin the Martian
He had actually done time in the front line as a commissioned officer (highest rank was Lt Col) though and was an honorary Air Commodore of one of the Aux AF Squadrons (plus no doubt was involved with honorary positions in other services). |
Ref Sir Hoy, at the time I felt exactly the same way but couldn't be bothered to comment. I was just following the crowd this time and offering my 2-penneth. Let's face it, the thread probably started because she looked great in rig, rather than the fact that she was in rig.
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she looked great in rig and very smartly turned out too. |
I seem to recall a certain prime minister who held the appointment between 1940 and 1945 who was fond of wearing light blue, dark blue or green uniform as he felt necessary. |
And of course the interest in her, and through her into the Air Cadets, is exactly why she has been appointed.
And - judging by this thread - it seems to have worked!! :ok::ok: |
Slightly off topic, I taught Carol to swim 1970s when she was about 11-13 years old at Pontin's Prestatyn Pool. I've always wanted to get in touch again.
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Really doesn't matter what rank these honorary appointments have, but it has to be senior enough to mean something for the work they do and the levels they move at.
Not certain about this but doesn't CV have two children who may well be cadets themselves? I draw the line at honorary wings, brevets, etc. If the person hasn't done the full course and passed then they should, in my opinion, be worn on the opposite side to denote that they are honorary. |
So if they haven't done a flying course an honorary brevet isn't appropriate, but senior rank is appropriate even if they haven't done the commissioning course?
By the same token of an honorary brevet being worn on the opposite side, there should be some differentiator to the badges of rank as worn to indicate an honorary appointment. |
honestly get a fecking grip she could learn how to fly for under 500 euro but raf pish we are looking at 5-6k
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I've always wanted to get in touch again. |
There doesn't seem to have been the same issues when Gp Capt Sir Chris Hoy was given the same role in 2013...... |
honestly get a fecking grip she could learn how to fly for under 500 euro but raf pish we are looking at 5-6k Perhaps you are unaware that Carol already holds a PPL(A)? |
raf pish we are looking at 5-6k |
"I seem to recall a certain prime minister who held the appointment between 1940 and 1945 who was fond of wearing light blue, dark blue or green uniform as he felt necessary"
But he did serve....... cornet (second lieutenant) in the 4th Queen's Own Hussars on 20 February 1895. 1897, three brigades of the British Army were going to fight against a Pashtun tribe in the North West Frontier of India and he asked his superior officer if he could join the fight.[40] He fought under the command of General Jeffery, the commander of the second brigade operating in Malakand, in the Frontier region of British India 1898. on attachment 21st Lancers serving in the Sudan under the command of General Herbert Kitchener. While in the Sudan, he participated in what has been described as the last meaningful British cavalry charge, at the Battle of Omdurman in September 1898 In 1900 he retired from the regular army, and in 1902 joined the Imperial Yeomanry, commissioned as a Captain in the Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars on 4 January 1902.[56] In April 1905, he was promoted to Major and appointed to command of the Henley Squadron of the Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars. After his resignation from the government in 1915, Churchill rejoined the British Army, After spending some time as a Major with the 2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards, he was appointed Lieutenant-Colonel, commanding the 6th Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers (part of the 9th (Scottish) Division), on 1 January 1916. During his period of command, Ploegsteert was a "quiet sector," and the battalion did not take part in any set battle. , he exposed himself to danger by making excursions to the front line or into No Man's Land.[60] Plus of course he was First Lord of the Admiralty, learnt to fly BEFORE WW1 and was a great supporter to of the RNAS |
There's a photo in the RAF club of three kings wearing RAF uniform with pilots' wings. As far as I know both Edward VIII and George VI were qualified pilots but I have never heard that George V learned to fly, so in his case I think the wings really were honorary. One day of course we'll have a "proper" RAF pilot on the throne.
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One day of course we'll have a "proper" RAF pilot on the throne. Ain't that the truth! |
Tankertrashnav
There's a photo in the RAF club of three kings wearing RAF uniform with pilots' wings. As far as I know both Edward VIII and George VI were qualified pilots but I have never heard that George V learned to fly, so in his case I think the wings really were honorary. One day of course we'll have a "proper" RAF pilot on the throne. Here's a picture of three kings with wings. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...gsandWings.jpg |
Honorary RAF Ranks
Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother was Honorary Air Commodore of Nos. 600 and 2600 (City of London) Squadrons being appointed to the rank in 1949. I cannot recall ever having seen the Queen Mum wearing an RAF uniform.
I was at Biggin Hill in 1955 when she visited Nos. 600 and 2600 (City of London) Squadrons on Saturday 23rd April 1955. She flew from Smith’s Lawn, Windsor Great Park, to Biggin Hill in a Westland WS-55 Whirlwind helicopter of the Fleet Air Arm, making her first helicopter flight. HM was received by AVM H. L. Patch, A.O.C. No. 11 Group. Later she reviewed a parade of both squadrons and watched a formation fly-past of No. 600 Sqn aircraft and a demonstration of Bofors gun-drill by No. 2600 Sqn. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...essCutting.jpg http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...itto615Sqn.jpg Taken as the Fleet Air Arm Westland WS-55 with the Queen Mother aboard departed from the helicopter pad on the station parade ground on her return to Windsor Great Park. Her visit was not a particularly nice for one airman in the guard of honour when she pointed out to the SWO (Station Warrant Officer) that the airman's shoes were not as shiny as the others with the result that he was confined to camp of 14-days - this "offence" was the talk of the Station and was not received very kindly and left a somewhat bitter taste. It was also the occasion I believe when the then Under Secretary of State for Air, George Ward, who was present, was seen to be wearing socks of two different colours, one blue and one brown. When this discrepancy was pointed out, he famously commented: "I have another pair with the same colours in my wardrobe at home”! |
Wasn't QM also Hon Something of CFS?
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That's the picture I was thinking of, Warmtoast.
Thanks for the info. |
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