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Bubblewindow 5th Jun 2012 20:43

Though Im an out and out Aerosexual I must admit that when the boys and gals from LN go 'Low Flayyy' in their Strike Eagles (seems more often than the RAF these days??) the noise footprint below them , though at 500ft, is unmercifull.

Even after 22 years working in/around military aircraft I was caught out by an F15E on an early morning flight in Wales. Packing the car boot outside the B+B the Mud Hen blasted directly over me instead of the usual hard bank around the hill. Frightened the bejesus out of me , Love it
:D
BW

ZeBedie 5th Jun 2012 20:46


Reminds me of the way that 30 years or so ago the Buccaneers used to play chicken with trains on the West Coast Main Line over Tebay / Shap.
Electrification of the line was completed in 1974 and it was probably that which put a stop to it?

Davef68 5th Jun 2012 23:35

I drive up and down that road all the time and I never see Hercs at low level over the road (or anything else these days... grumble grumble.....)

mad_jock 6th Jun 2012 06:13

Its quite rare these days that you do see anything on this route. Maybe they only use it when they are doing a north south run to postion the aircraft.

Back in the 90's early 2000 there was alot more traffic both fast jet and other stuff.

Wensleydale 6th Jun 2012 07:21

If you really wanted to be scared by low flying while driving.....

There used to be (maybe still there?) a falconry centre near Austwick in the Yorkshire Dales. One of the inmates was an Andean Condor called Carlos who used to be excercised over the cliffs to the north of the A65 (easier to launch him off a crag). His handler used to claim that Carlos enjoyed himself by chasing motorbikes along the road and caused a few near things. However, Carlos' best trick was to surf on the bow wave of large lorries heading towards Skipton. I am sure that his 9' wingspan caused a few heart flutters.

(The centre also had a bald eagle, but he was flown over a different area as he and Carlos did not get on).

W.

Milo Minderbinder 6th Jun 2012 08:20

"There used to be (maybe still there?) a falconry centre near Austwick"

Its still there

500N 6th Jun 2012 17:29

Avitor

I think you should look at the photos on this page.

Photo No 11 would look superb on a wall in your house
just to remind you of the great job the RAF do and if you
ever need to induce labour, then maybe show the lady
Photo No 11 and for good measure, the one of the Herc at 26 ?

Mach Loop, March. What happened to the weather... • FighterControl • Military Aviation Forum

Bubblewindow 6th Jun 2012 18:51

Sorry , I know its not a photo thread but maybe Avitor can frame this....

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...r/ff0294e1.jpg

Or this , taken on 21st of May just gone....

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...r/b0ed5174.jpg

Cheers,
BW

Bubblewindow 6th Jun 2012 18:54

Mods: appologies if some photos are too wide . Away from base and editing via iPhone !!

BW

clicker 7th Jun 2012 00:38

Regret to say I've only been the victim of low flying once, living in Sussex in a low flying restricted zone doesnt help.

That one time I was taking a break from driving and parked in a layby on the A15 when a Harrier GR7 came over. My next reaction was to look for others after grabbing the camera but he was on his own.

Later thought he might have just come off the ranges at Holbeach as I had heard a lone ship there only a little while before.

So anyone who attacked a blue suzuki alto in a layby on the A15 near Sleaford........Thanks

ScufferEng 8th Jun 2012 09:35

Having spent several years flying low level in Albert and now a Train driver for Chiltern Railways;- I would request any fly pasts of my train to be extra low! :ok: so any time you are doing drops at Weston or flying anywhere along Chiltern mainline- use the RADALT!:).

Neil Amrose 8th Jun 2012 20:05

herc crew low flying shocker
 
As a happy hacker at Mid Sussex GC ( Ditchling East Sussex ) one is
used to the odd Chinook wandering past low level east to west or vice versa.
However about 6 weeks ago whilst lining up a second shot on 9th I was
what can only be described as transfixed as a Herc whooshed over my head
at great speed and at very very low height.It was an amazingly
exhilarating sight .I am not easily impressed by aviation feats having worked
at LGW for 40 years but that moment was total magic.

Wensleydale 9th Jun 2012 08:15


Having spent several years flying low level in Albert and now a Train driver for Chiltern Railways;- I would request any fly pasts of my train to be extra low! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif so any time you are doing drops at Weston or flying anywhere along Chiltern mainline- use the RADALT!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/smile.gif.
Or indeed, Train Following Radar......

Fox3WheresMyBanana 9th Jun 2012 13:21

Joe Public seems to be even more impressed by TOT than the low flying bit.
Though, of course, it rarely happens because you were never allowed to phone up a girlfriend with a time to the second when you would be over her garden.....

Shell Management 9th Jun 2012 14:27

The RAF now say horse riders should wear high viz clothing: RAF Pilots Call for Riders to Wear High-visibility Gear - Horse & Hound

As this is to aid the RAF's own risk mitigations, then teh RAF should be providing this PPE free of charge so as to to breach the H&SAW requirement that PPE is provided free.

BossEyed 9th Jun 2012 14:30

Contrary as ever, S-M.

Some thoughts:

Who is taking the personal risk?
Is it up to the person taking the risk to mitigate it, or is that somebody else's responsibility?
Are there any other hazards that can be mitigated by a rider wearing hi-vis clothing?

Shack37 9th Jun 2012 14:32


Joe Public seems to be even more impressed by TOT than the low flying bit.
Though, of course, it rarely happens because you were never allowed to phone up a girlfriend with a time to the second when you would be over her garden.....
Not fair, she should at least have a "heads up" to get the reserve b/f indoors.

Shell Management 9th Jun 2012 14:32

No, the AOC is the 'Operator Duty Holder' and can be court matialled if risk is not tolerable and ALARP.

BossEyed 9th Jun 2012 14:39

Yes, I do know that, thanks.

Is the taxpayer providing every horse rider in the country with a florescent tabard ALARP? I'd love to see that argument developed convincingly; I doubt it can realistically be so argued.

And what about when horse rider forgets/chooses not to wear tabard? What's the ODH to do?

Let's face it: The horse rider is the one at risk, as the H&H article describes well and fairly. A florescent tabard can be obtained for £1.99, and so avilability is not an issue. The only person who can ultimately mitigate the hazard via hi-viz is the horse rider.

Shack37 9th Jun 2012 14:40


No, the AOC is the 'Operator Duty Holder' and can be court matialled if risk is not tolerable and ALARP.
And is the AOC also responsible for the hazard to vehicle traffic presented by the horse riders? The riders are the hazard, not the aircraft or ground traffic.


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