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ShyTorque 2nd Jun 2012 19:21

When my wife was three weeks overdue we got her riding my partly restored classic motorbike around the garden. Thought it might work, especially as it had no seat fitted.

It didn't!

However, I nearly had kittens when she almost crashed it into the garage wall :eek:

Dengue_Dude 2nd Jun 2012 19:29

I don't believe he WAS a taxi driver - his name isn't Mohammed.

Of course, he would know what 100 ft looks like on an aircraft with a 132 foot wingspan.

Get over it - checkout where 'sympathy' comes in the dictionary.

About the most dangerous thing he'll do is pick up a drunk in the Gorbals . . . hmm on the other hand . . . :E

Avitor 2nd Jun 2012 19:44


Originally Posted by Shack37 (Post 7223016)
Avitor



Yes , I think you are. You seem to be basing your opinion on the hysterical thoughts of a taxi driver accompanied by his hysterical daughters, one of whom was 39 weeks pregnant. Maybe her unborn infant will grow up to be a pilot as a result of the experience.

No! I need no one to prompt me, I am basing my comments on totally irresponsible flying. Low flying by all means, but over a busy road...certainly not. Let's see some respect, please.

green granite 2nd Jun 2012 20:04

Avitor, roads go through gaps in hills, Aeroplanes, if they are trying to stay below radar detection height will do the same, sometimes using the same gap is inevitable.

If that taxi driver took his eyes off the road, that according to him was full of swerving vehicles, for long enough to accurately determine that the Herc was flying at 100' then the police should be having words with him about driving without due care and attention.

OldnDaft 2nd Jun 2012 20:16

I echo the comments of some earlier posts - I was brought up just over the border and it is an area with proud and ongoing military connections. The piece in the local paper is a bit if filler, it must have been a quiet news day!

Chris Griffin 2nd Jun 2012 20:17

Avitor -

Respect is earned, not automatic. Claiming that the whole crew were guilty of "totally irresponsible flying" with no cogent evidence = troll.

The herk crews i know are thoroughly professional aviators and in the present climate it is not worth the poo storm to exceed ones authorisation. There are no specific regulations concerning flying over roads. Consequently, if the crew are operating within a reasonable authorisation then there can be NO comeback.

Provide evidence to back your claim or retract / delete your post please.

DX Wombat 2nd Jun 2012 20:20

OK Oaf, I was pootling from the direction of Liverpool ;) Will that do?

November4 2nd Jun 2012 20:41

Can we have some or this low flying stuff over the Chippenham area....again....please...

Dengue_Dude 2nd Jun 2012 20:46


No! I need no one to prompt me, I am basing my comments on totally irresponsible flying. Low flying by all means, but over a busy road...certainly not. Let's see some respect, please.
Were you there? How could you possibly call it irresponsible? From your tone, I reckon you'd not see much with your head so firmly up 'there'.

But I respect the hell out of you . . . How am I doing?

Avitor 2nd Jun 2012 20:51


Originally Posted by Dengue_Dude (Post 7223475)
Were you there? How could you possibly call it irresponsible? From your tone, I reckon you'd not see much with your head so firmly up 'there'.

But I respect the hell out of you . . . *How am I doing?

*Closing ranks, like the rest of them. :=

OafOrfUxAche 2nd Jun 2012 21:24

DX,

Oh alright then! Let's leave this thread to the intelligentsia...

Oaf:p

PS I'm only jealous of your dit!

Samuel 2nd Jun 2012 21:30

Avitor, is clearly not an abbreviation of 'Aviator' because you evidently have no experience whatsoever of aviation, but merely "have an interest" in it.

So, let me add to your interest by observing a few facts.

First, you're complaining about something you clearly have no knowledge of other than what a newspaper says ergo, you have no knowledge of fact.

Secondly, 150' if, indeed, that was the height of the aircraft, but you don't know that, is actually much further away from a vehicle on a road than the vehicles in front and behind,and with a far more competent crew so if a driver finds it necessary to swerve then he's incompetent.

Nervous SLF 2nd Jun 2012 21:38

Please excuse a mere civilian but I would love to see a Herc fly low, it just won't happen where I live
here in NZ. As for fast jets - no chance whatsoever unless we are invaded.
People who complain, like that taxi driver, should feel ashamed and keep their mouths shut.

MATELO 2nd Jun 2012 21:41


She’s 39-weeks pregnant and the shock could have put her into labour.
Shame it didnt work, I could have put a business venture in place at the end of BZN runway for "overdue" expectant mothers.

Jamie-Southend 2nd Jun 2012 21:46


“I could have had a heart attack.”
Load of old tosh, he was a taxi driver, and should have passed a class 1 medical, he wouldnt have had an attack....stroke maybe :/

aluminium persuader 2nd Jun 2012 22:01

Last time I met a taxi-driver, I was stationary at traffic lights. He was so busy programming his sat-nav, he went straight into the back of me at over 60km/h. Wrote my car off!
:mad:
ap

oldmansquipper 2nd Jun 2012 22:49

Final Mission - Red Flag 8?-???
 
I was in an Albert acting as a co-opted "spotter" - I was on my knees by the right hand seat looking out for Red Air tipping in.

A brief movement in my peripheral vision made me look down to see a pair of "my" Jags passing underneath (just) us. Most impressive.

The Rad Alt (black bodge taped to the cockpit coaming in those days) showed 100 ft ....:ooh: :eek:

Krystal n chips 3rd Jun 2012 07:12

Low flying does affect people in different ways....heading South one day and descending Tebay, coming in the opposite direction were two Jags...the Merc in front duly performed several "S" turns.....possibly because of the Tornado which was doing it's best to catch them up...made my day as they say..

The shock of a low flying jet can, however, have a silver lining....Llangurig, many years ago and a "very self important" and very junior Pilot Officer ( complete with sheperds crook no less ) is pontificating to a "less than rapt" audience of apprentices...those of you who fly the Low Level routes will be aware of Llangurig..so, we are facing North, our "hero" South..when an F-4 appears, sees the encampment on the riverside, drops down..and duly overflies the camp with noise selected and at some speed...height being possibly below that permitted..cough !...our "hero", taken by surprise, shock and awe..duly throws himself into the ground..face first...priceless to watch:D.....the F-4 duly made a second pass....:ok:...this time with the crew using hand signals which were reciprocated by the watching troops....with one exception that is.

barnstormer1968 3rd Jun 2012 09:42

I think that perhaps many posters here are completely missing the point, and that avitor has the facts right (despite not being there and having no idea of the height of the aircraft, or whether any other cars did in fact swerve, or whether the taxi driver has a heart problem, or whether the daughter is in fact 39 weeks pregnant).

The article claims that the Herc narrowly missed the car, and that it was flying at less than 100 feet (oh, is that AGL or AMSL.....Perhaps avitor can tell us.......maybe it was AMSL and was flying underground...that would be scary), so perhaps it was only flying at 7 feet above the road level, as 99 feet would leave it 94 feet above the cars roof. I would not call a distance of two artic lorries and trailers a near miss.

Anyhow, I cant stop to chat now, as I drive past the approach end of Bristol airport's runway daily (as do lots of other drivers, plus drivers near other city airports) and am off to pick up a car load of pregnant ladies!

Luckily for the taxi driver, his daughter and avitor there will be several sources of evidence that will show the height of this aircraft, and I'm sure avitor will be back to tell us the exact height once this has been investigated!:E

JP1 3rd Jun 2012 12:29

This thread has reminded me of being beaten up by a Puma sometime in the summer of '91 (possibly '92).

I was driving my new XR2, sunroof open, windows down and I think about 95mph (pushing 100) on the clock. I was on a section of road (probably the B390) a few miles past Stonehenge where a few feet to my right the farmers field drops away.

Pushing a 100 with the windows down in an XR2 generates a LOT of wind noise, with the stereo full on I am still not sure I could hear any music. Anyway given all that wind noise I still heard the rotors of the Puma and thought WTF is that. Glanced to by right to see a PUMA level with me!!! and maybe 2 rotor disc away.

Must of being quite a laugh in the Puma. Seeing a boy racer in his black XR2 and then deciding to cream it!


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