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xenolith 10th Feb 2012 15:23

Commissioned Crewman Leaders
 
What’s the deal with commissioned crewman leaders nowadays? I understood that they were being binned but I recently heard that they had been retained on the rotary side.

TheWizard 10th Feb 2012 15:48

*Pulls up a chair* http://forums.airshows.co.uk/images/smilies/snack.gif

Equilibrium 10th Feb 2012 16:57

Confused dot com
 
With empowered Masters, why would the system want to undo all their good work? :=

charliegolf 10th Feb 2012 18:01

Commissioned Loadies:


I understood that they were being binned
No, just their brains. The bins being the ones by the Henlow and Cranwell main gates.

If in doubt, just check for the zip at the back of the head. (Eh, St John's:ok:)

CG

Seldomfitforpurpose 10th Feb 2012 18:40


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 7016398)
just check for the zip at the back of the head. (Eh, St John's:ok:)

CG

I think that particular zip went in post Scuffer trg :p:p:p

charliegolf 10th Feb 2012 18:48


I think that particular zip went in post Scuffer trg
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

He's gonna be peeved with me, but REALLY annoyed with you!

cazatou 10th Feb 2012 18:54

CG

I must protest - your Post upset SFFP.

That is most unfair - it was not your turn. There is a waiting list!!

Seldomfitforpurpose 10th Feb 2012 20:14


Originally Posted by charliegolf (Post 7016472)
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

He's gonna be peeved with me, but REALLY annoyed with you!

If I get to the reunion this year I will buy him a beer and I am sure he will forgive me if not I will tell all about how Joyce the cleaner almost caught him during a crafty "ND" :E

Caz,

It's a Crewman thread so go dribble elsewhere, oh and remind us again where are you paying your pension tax :p:p:p

St Johns Wort 10th Feb 2012 21:00

Seldom - Charlie. A zip! Luxury! I was only there for 4 days so a bit of Velcro, super glued in, was the best they could do. The original snowdrop zip had healed over by then.

Seldom. Now that was a good det; Didn’t Jack M*****G ‘break’ his leg on that one;)? And who could forget ‘Captain Gonad’ on the water taxi:eek:!

Seldomfitforpurpose 10th Feb 2012 21:15


Originally Posted by St Johns Wort (Post 7016856)
Seldom - Charlie. A zip! Luxury! I was only there for 4 days so a bit of Velcro, super glued in, was the best they could do. The original snowdrop zip had healed over by then.

Seldom. Now that was a good det; Didn’t Jack M*****G ‘break’ his leg on that one;)? And who could forget ‘Captain Gonad’ on the water taxi:eek:!

Was indeed, was indeed, hope to see you in Nov if we are back from our travels :ok:

ukcds 10th Feb 2012 21:16

They do the cr@p jobs proper Rodney's wont do

Airborne Aircrew 10th Feb 2012 21:19

Jeff L was a proper Rodney... :E

NutLoose 11th Feb 2012 01:01

There was one at Odious in my time and he was a Grade A

http://www.baldwinbrasshardware.com/.../2007/5405.jpg

I remember him hanging from a Wessex winch in a cargo net after being installed there by the rest of the crews.

Airborne Aircrew 11th Feb 2012 01:37

Jeff meant well... and was a nice man...

Seldomfitforpurpose 11th Feb 2012 08:12


Originally Posted by Airborne Aircrew (Post 7017163)
Jeff meant well... and was a nice man...

My opinion as well however not a populist viewpoint at all.

globefan 11th Feb 2012 09:03

An interesting debate the 'empowered master' one. Actually intent was for masters to step up to the plate and take on the duties and responsibilities of the commissioned guys...shame so many of them shy away from the real staff work when it comes to it.
Admittedly there was a fair percentage of duff commissioned guys, but let's not kid ourselves that all the MAcr Ldrs are shining stars by any stretch of the imagination. The ongoing debate is where are frontline units from both sides of the divide going to grow their execs from when the Nav trade dies and the pilot numbers get even lower? I would suggest the debate rages on and with the small numbers we'd be talking about there really is room for all. Depends whether the cadre (and the OCs) want to have a representative voice (that is heard) higher up the food chain.
And when the competition was run in recent years there wasn't exactly a shortage of applicants so the interest is still out there. Personal opinion of course.....

xenolith 11th Feb 2012 14:49

Globefan. WTF is an 'empowered master'? Is there a proper definition. Do they get substitution pay?

Nutloose. Nice self portrait!

Equilibrium 11th Feb 2012 17:06

Empowered Master
 
They can't receive substitution pay as this would actually mean a pay cut! :ok:

xenolith 11th Feb 2012 17:14

:suspect:So if it's cheaper to have a commissioned leader???????

NutLoose 11th Feb 2012 19:09


xenolith

Nutloose. Nice self portrait!
nope, my knob is bigger:O


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