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Old 10th Feb 2012, 15:23
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Commissioned Crewman Leaders

What’s the deal with commissioned crewman leaders nowadays? I understood that they were being binned but I recently heard that they had been retained on the rotary side.
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*Pulls up a chair*
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Confused dot com

With empowered Masters, why would the system want to undo all their good work?
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Commissioned Loadies:

I understood that they were being binned
No, just their brains. The bins being the ones by the Henlow and Cranwell main gates.

If in doubt, just check for the zip at the back of the head. (Eh, St John's)

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Originally Posted by charliegolf
just check for the zip at the back of the head. (Eh, St John's)

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I think that particular zip went in post Scuffer trg
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I think that particular zip went in post Scuffer trg


He's gonna be peeved with me, but REALLY annoyed with you!
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I must protest - your Post upset SFFP.

That is most unfair - it was not your turn. There is a waiting list!!
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Originally Posted by charliegolf


He's gonna be peeved with me, but REALLY annoyed with you!
If I get to the reunion this year I will buy him a beer and I am sure he will forgive me if not I will tell all about how Joyce the cleaner almost caught him during a crafty "ND"

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It's a Crewman thread so go dribble elsewhere, oh and remind us again where are you paying your pension tax
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Seldom - Charlie. A zip! Luxury! I was only there for 4 days so a bit of Velcro, super glued in, was the best they could do. The original snowdrop zip had healed over by then.

Seldom. Now that was a good det; Didn’t Jack M*****G ‘break’ his leg on that one? And who could forget ‘Captain Gonad’ on the water taxi!
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Seldom - Charlie. A zip! Luxury! I was only there for 4 days so a bit of Velcro, super glued in, was the best they could do. The original snowdrop zip had healed over by then.

Seldom. Now that was a good det; Didn’t Jack M*****G ‘break’ his leg on that one? And who could forget ‘Captain Gonad’ on the water taxi!
Was indeed, was indeed, hope to see you in Nov if we are back from our travels

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They do the cr@p jobs proper Rodney's wont do
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Jeff L was a proper Rodney...
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There was one at Odious in my time and he was a Grade A



I remember him hanging from a Wessex winch in a cargo net after being installed there by the rest of the crews.
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Jeff meant well... and was a nice man...
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Jeff meant well... and was a nice man...
My opinion as well however not a populist viewpoint at all.
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An interesting debate the 'empowered master' one. Actually intent was for masters to step up to the plate and take on the duties and responsibilities of the commissioned guys...shame so many of them shy away from the real staff work when it comes to it.
Admittedly there was a fair percentage of duff commissioned guys, but let's not kid ourselves that all the MAcr Ldrs are shining stars by any stretch of the imagination. The ongoing debate is where are frontline units from both sides of the divide going to grow their execs from when the Nav trade dies and the pilot numbers get even lower? I would suggest the debate rages on and with the small numbers we'd be talking about there really is room for all. Depends whether the cadre (and the OCs) want to have a representative voice (that is heard) higher up the food chain.
And when the competition was run in recent years there wasn't exactly a shortage of applicants so the interest is still out there. Personal opinion of course.....
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Globefan. WTF is an 'empowered master'? Is there a proper definition. Do they get substitution pay?

Nutloose. Nice self portrait!
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Empowered Master

They can't receive substitution pay as this would actually mean a pay cut!
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So if it's cheaper to have a commissioned leader???????
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Nutloose. Nice self portrait!
nope, my knob is bigger
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