Service Pride?
 

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Having read the attached, I'm not sure at all, that this is something for the R.A.F. to place alongside the Battle of Britain, Dambusters, sinking of the Turpitz, Blackbuck mission and all the various operations since?

Whatever the merits on the grounds of what's right and wrong, is this really a matter for boasting?:confused:

Some may disagree.

FB:)

Odd isn't it when you think that in some countries of the world we probably bomb and shoot at them... Though to be honest in those countries it will be frowned upon.

How the service has changed since I first enrolled in 1957. At that time most people wouldn't even known of the word lesbian. Progress eh? No, I don't think so either.

Brings a new meaning to the term I am just going to get some mufti on...

Most probably the only way you can get in to the RAF now, positive discrimination and all that.....................

FB

I am with you FB, who cares about what people do in thier own homes, i don't think we should be boasting about it, i don't think we should be even focusing on it. One of the guys in the picture was on a Sqn i recently served on. He just wanted to be treated normally and not attract attention etc.

I reckon in 10 years time this will not even be an issue.

Age
 

Sorry, it's an age thing. Was she the lesbian who recruited most people or the person that recruited most lesbians? Reading this makes me feel all evangelical!:suspect:

I don't mind blacking up but I'm not jumping in to bed with the homosexuals.

Bed
 

W2; OK, but how about jumping into bed with lesbians?:E

I recently discovered, after all these years, that I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body... :{

If I was sitting in the back seat of something pointy and fast I wouldnt give a damn if the lady up front was a lesbian or not as long as she could fly the thing well and get us both back on the ground safely. Or for that matter if it was a bloke who batted for the other side.

What a lot of wasted talent in the past when we kept these people out of the service - it's a change for the better as far as I'm concerned.

That said I'm with occhips on this - no special treatment and no shouting about it.

dctyke, my apologies! Whilst reading this thread I read your title without the c and t in it!!

Freudian Foldie:suspect:

TTN,

I don't think we ever kept them out, but I do know that they had to keep their sexuality private as a number of them subsequently came out of the closet!

Foldie:hmm:

TTN:

Fear not... They were among us back in the late 70's and early 80's... A man I'd fight alongside any time, any day wasn't a big ladies man... Though I will admit to not finding out until many years later...

If only that were possible :(

FW, I said this before, but on our Int course it was thrashed out :)

If Bloggs, worried about his sexuality approached his flt cdr and confessed to the dirty deed then Admin action followed immediately (this after it be came legal but not in the Services).

If Bloggs OTOH made an open confession to the confessor it would be entered on his personal file and kept as a ultra secret and it would probably not affect his security clearance etc.

The Provost Officer could see nothing wrong with this no matter how hard we beat him.

Earlier than that, a VSO had clearly made his confession and was duly posted to the US. UK would not rescind his posting even though the cousins said they would refuse to accept him. To rescind his posting could have outted the person. Instead it was rumoured that he was deliberately outted deliberately outted in a CIA sting.

The US Navy though appears to be bending over Backwards to be seen as being progressive

They even errrm filmed the occasion, wonder if it was the same person filming that suggested it :E

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

:eek:

Lesbian kiss on quayside marks new era for US Navy | News | The Week UK

Reckon the Air Force in the '50's and '60's had more than it's fair share of members who were "different". It was considered a quite acceptable practice to "dump" youngsters who were considered different in some way into the military, especially by parents who lacked the financial means to invove the psychiatric professions.

Post WWII and the early days of the Cold War, all three services were hungry for personnel, and would just about take anyone. Whether it was for cannon fodder of the army infantry through to Zob trainees at Cranditz. Everyone who was fit in body and limb was welcome, and bugger the mental aspects.

It was widely reported by siblings and rels that my entrapment was encouraged by the expression "This would make a man out of me", as obviously I wasn't much of at the time.

Heading out on the pull with het. males and a lesbian pilot (civvy, post-RAF) was cracking fun. You can be as non-pc as you like about the "targets" as she is saying and thinking (almost) the same thing, and she proved to be excellent at assessing our chances of success!

How long will it be before they make it compulsory?

Only if you have past the high ropes course first... :=

So as single airmen and single air women accommodation are segregated to prevent fraternisation (something i always thought was pathetic ) do they now have a mixed Gay and Lesbian block, and single one person accommodation for the Bi sexuals?

Almost got in trouble one day at work when I got pounced on by some equal rights operative. I was stopped in the corridor and asked the question "What does LGB mean to you". I immediately responded "smart bombs, CEP, designators etc.".

I was then on the receiving end of a tirade about Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual (LGB!) rights before I pointed out that the question was "what does it mean to me", and I was working on a project involving stores management at the time.

LGB? Model railway manufacturer.

LGB:

See.. I got that right away...

Little Gay Buggers... :}

Last of the Great Bigots?

Plenty of those on PPruNe

(no names, no pack drill etc ;))

I bet the Navy are loving this!!!!!

I've nothing against dykes but I'd never stick my finger in one

Both the Navy and the Army will be steering well clear of this one, if the light blue are recognised as the top Lesbian recruiter that only leaves the GBT categories to lay claim to :p

Airborne Aircrew, shame on you.... for being so un PC with your "littlelism"

Just to be PC, we should also remember the Large Gay Buggers... :}

... and of course not forgetting:

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famec...y-poppins.jpeg

Nutloose:

I'm sorry. You are correct, of course. I'll have a strong word with myself...

:ooh:

The TLA LGB? I'm sure, as a newly appointed senior bucket at Binnsworth introduced himself as such, LGB stands for Large Gut Bucket.

I do not believe it!
 

I have had to edit this post so many times that there is nothing left that will get past the mods.

Victor Meldrew

Regarding the links to the US Navy kiss and now this reference to the RAF it reminds me of how homosexuality was an unlawful offence where the offenders would be imprisoned, NCO's also reduced in rank and all offenders would then be discharged. Now we could say the exact reverse applies... If this behaviour is criticised then the offenders can face imprisonment and discharge from the service.

What a Topsy turvy World but thank goodness we do not have to see pictures of two hairy sailors tickling each others tonsil!!!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::uhoh:

Oh dear, glojo...
 

.....you will, you will. Especially now you've mentioned it in public. Bound to happen, innit?

The Ancient Mariner

Interesting thought. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that Mitt Romney might be the next US president. As he is a big wheel in the Mormon church (a bishop I believe) which is implacably opposed to homosexuality, I wonder how he would reconcile his church position with the de facto office of commander in chief of the US armed forces, which accept it.

Would appear out of all the Companies in the UK the RAF ranks 56th in the league with the Royal Navy coming up the rear at 77th.
The British Army however appears not to be able to get it up onto the top 100. :E

See

Stonewall

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Interesting choice of words No. 1 Interesting choice of words No. 2 :E

I dont get it, surely we should be recruiting the best people for the job, gay, straight, black, white, whatever!
Why have we got recruitment teams specifically targeting certain groups? Targets are being set and standards lowered to meet them, all in the name of the Pc brigade.