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foldingwings 26th Feb 2012 17:17

Frankly, I can't be ar*ed to look through all 8 pages and so I apologise if this has already been covered but this:

Diamond Jubilee Medal | Commemorative Queens 2012 Medals for Sale


Eligibility
Available to all those who have served Queen and Country from 6th February 1952, the date Elizabeth II ascended to the throne, or those who are currently serving members of the Armed Forces, Emergency Services personnel (paid, retained or voluntary), Prison Service, Police Community Support Officers, holders of the Victoria Cross and George Cross and members of the Royal Household. Next of kin and direct descendants may also apply. The miniature medal and all other items are available without restriction. The Government of the United Kingdom will be striking an official medal which will be issued to eligible serving personnel only. Many deserving individuals will not be eligible to the official issue including all those who are no longer serving. As this is a commemorative and not official issue, it is to be worn with pride not alongside gallantry decorations, but separately and distinctively.

Please note that St John Ambulance volunteers are not authorised to wear this commemorative issue.
has to be a bloody joke! Surely?

If they don't want to give it to us retired wallas (and why should they - our need would compound the national debt a thousand-fold given that there are more of us on the outside than on the inside, these days!) then who in their right mind would buy one and when would you wear it?

Is it me or have we become a very shallow nation?

Foldie:E

PS. I'm bloody glad St John's Ambulance can't buy it, I wouldn't want to be thought of of having to share a medal with them (or prison officers; PCSOs; and 999 telephone operators!).

PPS. Bloody country has gone to the dogs!

Tankertrashnav 26th Feb 2012 17:34


then who in their right mind would buy one and when would you wear it?

Where have you been for the last 20 odd years Foldie? Every Remembrance Day Service from the Cenotaph to Lesser Muckbury in the Mire is attended by veterans weighed down with rows of these things, which usually outnumber their "real" medals by a significant factor. When I was in the medal business I did a steady trade with chaps ordering themselves what might be called "vanity" medals. Didn't worry me, I just took their money, if they wanted to dress themselves up as Russian generals that was their affair. I must admit though, I'm starting to feel slightly conspicuous on Remembrance Sunday now with my single GSM!

Incidentally do you think if a SJAB volunteer orders one of these things they are going to send the cheque back? No chance!

Pontius Navigator 26th Feb 2012 18:17


Originally Posted by foldingwings (Post 7050467)
PS. I'm bloody glad St John's Ambulance can't buy it, I wouldn't want to be thought of of having to share a medal with them

Oh Foldie, I forgive you for you know not what you say.

During the war in Guernsey the St John's remained a uniformed service with sergeants, corporals etc despite the German occupation. The Germans didn't seem to realise that they were representing King and country even though occupied. To this day the St John's are part of the annual commemoration parade and service at Foulon Cemetery each October. They probably also parade for Remembrance too.

foldingwings 26th Feb 2012 20:22

Whatever!!

I must be very very old fashioned then. I would never consider buying let alone wearing a medal that I hadn't been awarded!

By the way, no malintent to those of the support services who earned their stripes during the war; I was thinking more of some of the overweight scruffs that I have seen at sporting events!!!

Foldie:confused:

November4 26th Feb 2012 21:40

On the well know auction site


Official Queens Diamond Jubilee Full Size Medal and Ribbon (first to get them !!

This is the Full Size Replacement Queens Diamond Jubilee Medal and although it cannot be worn until the 6th of Feb you can buy it here now

TheWizard 26th Feb 2012 21:43

Pretty careless to need a 'replacement' full size when they haven't even been given out yet!!
Apart from the fact they cannot be worn officially till June anyway!:ugh:

Tankertrashnav 1st Mar 2012 18:31

As a medal enthusiast I am pleased that those currently serving are sporting such impressive rows of medals. However it is incumbent on them to wear them correctly, particularly when in the public eye.

I shall spare the lady's blushes by not naming her, but the RAF sergeant who was present when The Queen visited Fortum and Masons today was wearing her LS & GC back to front (ie with the monarch's head innermost).

I am sure that HM was too well-mannered to say anything, but you can be damn sure she noticed!

aw ditor 1st Mar 2012 18:52

Fortnum&Masons.

Getting your hamper order in early?

AD'

Tankertrashnav 1st Mar 2012 20:19

I wish!

Was on BBC TV news

500N 1st Mar 2012 21:54

TTS

Not nearly as bad as loose threads on the braid of the uniform.

Biggus 4th Mar 2012 20:37

About 5 posts ago The Wizard said...."they haven't even been given out yet!!
Apart from the fact they cannot be worn officially till June anyway! "



Is that correct - or has nobody told Harry.....

Harry wears Jubilee medal in public - Yahoo!

..or is it a case of one rule for some....?

Courtney Mil 4th Mar 2012 21:01

Nope. Just a good man representing our country and our Queen in a special year. Maybe the Palace is better organized in these matters than anyone else.

Military Aircrew forum? Never seen so many disloyal servants.

Melchett01 4th Mar 2012 21:13


Maybe the Palace is better organized in these matters than anyone else.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree on this one. HRH is in military uniform and is subject to the same rules and regulations as every other person wearing uniform. And the DIN, which sets out the rules and regulations for the wear of this award, clearly states when the ribbon, miniature and full size medals can be worn.

Although representing HM on an official tour, it does shall we say raise 'presentational issues' if he wants to be treated as an ordinary serviceman.

Biggus 4th Mar 2012 21:22

CM,

Whilst I appreciate that tone is often difficult to read in a brief post, I find you presumption as to my level of loyalty, especially as you don't know me, somewhat objectionable.

I offered three possible alternatives as to why Harry was wearing the medal, one of which was that The Wizard simply got his facts wrong....




As a general comment, if ones conditions of service, accommodation, pay, pension, food, etc are continually eroded and degraded, compulsary redundancies are being made, why should it surprise anyone that the level of loyalty being shown by some of the troops should not fall correspondingly?

500N 4th Mar 2012 21:23

It's unlikely he would have worn it without approval. After all, how many people would have been involved in preparing his uniforms for the trip, civilian and military as well as having to get his medals remounted for all the different uniforms.

AARON O'DICKYDIDO 4th Mar 2012 21:41

I am sure that I read recently that the medal may be worn as soon as it has been received.


Aaron.

Melchett01 4th Mar 2012 21:48

Nope, can't be worn before 5 Jun - direct cut from the DIN (available on Google)


The medal or medal ribbon may not be worn until entitlement has been confirmed. The medal ribbon and appropriate miniature may be worn from 7 Feb 12 (6 Feb is also the anniversary of the death of the late King George VI and is not a suitable date to be celebrated). The medal may not be worn prior to 5 Jun 12 (the date of the official Diamond Jubilee Thanksgiving Service).

Chris Griffin 4th Mar 2012 21:48

ring ring, ring ring

" Gran, can I wear that medal for your diamond doo dah?"

"Of course H"

Job done.

CM - "Never seen so many disloyal servants." I am increasingly of the opinion that quite a few posters haven't seen a days military service in their lives.

I know for a fact that very very few current serving aircrew look at this tripe.

TheWizard 4th Mar 2012 22:22

Bearing in mind he is also wearing the Golden Jubilee medal (which was given out in 2002 when HRH was only 18 and not even in the military) I suspect he has had the rules waived and been given special permission to wear both. There has to be some perks! ;)

baffman 4th Mar 2012 22:30

Reporting on Prince Harry's official Jubilee duty visit to the Caribbean, the Telegraph mentioned that Her Majesty the Queen had granted special permission for him to wear her Diamond Jubilee Medal before the normal authorised date.

"Granted special permission" from such a source means "is your duty to", DIN or no DIN.

As with the Golden Jubilee Medal which Prince Harry also holds, Her Majesty has the clear prerogative to issue and authorise this medal irrespective of the military administrative system, to commemorate what is, after all chaps, Her Jubilee.


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