Queens Diamond Jubilee Medal
 

Many of you may remember the way the Queens 25th Aniversary Medal was distributed. Nothing has changed in 35 years!

Petition Diamond Decoraration should include all veterans - e-petitions

Next year the Queens Diamond Jubilee Medal will be presented to service
personnel, emergency service personnel and prison officers with more than
five years service. There are no plans to award the medal to veterans, many
of whom have given a lot more than five years service during the reign of
Her Majesty.

This petition asks that the medal should also be awarded to veterans who
served Her Majesty during her 60 years on the throne.

Please sign it and distribute as you deem fit.


David Swain
Captain, Royal Navy
Secretary
The Navy Lodge, No. 2612

Shan't be signing. Got one medal for my only period of active service during my 12 years, that'll do me. Can't see why anyone would particularly want a medal that everyone else has - seems to defeat the object of medals to me. Smacks of modern school sports days when everyone gets a prize.

On a point of detail it was the Golden Jubilee Medal 2002 which was distributed in the way described - the Silver Jubilee Medal 1977 was awarded very sparingly.

I believe the criteria is 5 years service and still active at the date of the jubilee. Why should every veteran get one? If so, then every ex-fireman, paramedic, policeman etc should get one too, which would be ludicrous.
I'm afraid I will not support this.

What a waste of a petition. The real petition should be for those who are serving with less than five years' service but who are laying down their lives on the front line - they should get the medal, not veterans.

At the end of the day it's a chocolate medal, smaller than real medals and, unless you really are a gong hunter, somewhat embarrassing to wear adjacent to medals that have been hard earned with blood, sweat and tears. Hadn't been in long enough in '77, just out in '97, no interest in 2011. No signature from here either. := Should be getting the new ACSM 11 which will mean a lot more.

A crewroom, somewhere in East Anglia, 1977.

Sqn Cdr - 'Bloggs, we are only getting 12 of these medals for us and the troops!' SEngO is sorting out 6 deserving troops but since all the officers deserve one do me a favour and put all our names in a hat and run a draw at shareholders on Friday!'

Bloggs - 'Right Boss, that's it, names in a hat, yeah!'

Sqn Cdr - 'That's it, Bloggs, seems fairest way, eh!'

Friday Shareholders, Boss has explained sitch to officers and Bloggs is summonsed up front to run the draw! (Bloggs knows that Sqn Ldr Wibble really really really wants a medal!)

Sqn Cdr - 'Right Bloggs, get on with it!'

Bloggs pulls first name out the hat - 'Sqn Ldr Wibble!'

Wibble puffs out chest with happiness and adoration that HMQ has selected him to receive a medal!

Bloggs pulls second name out the hat - 'Sqn Ldr Wibble!'

Third name - 'Sqn Ldr Wibble!'

etc etc

Sqn Cdr goes harpic! Bloggs is dutifully admonished amongst gales of laughter.

Bloggs removes 36 'Wibbles' from his hat and the draw is rerun!

You guessed it, no medal for Wibble!

Larf, we nearly sh*t! (with apologies to Pete & Dud)

Foldie:8

Well how did that happen! I wrote and posted my post at 1645 on 25 Nov 11 and it appeared up there at 0834!

PPRuNe you have some strange ways!


Foldie:cool:

PS. Bloody hell, it's done it again, I'm off for a lie down in a darkened room!

Ooo, an almost witty response 'Kreuger flap', cut a little close to the bone did I?

Do you desperately desire a piece of gizit tin to hang forlornly on your C&A blazer too?


(Strange, this post has travelled back in time too).

Well said Bismark. Many many of those coming home from here in coffins would not qualify but they and their comrades have given HM exceptional service in a short period of time.

No thanks, Captain Pugwash - like when would I wear it, just another trinket for the sock drawer. Jeepers, getting very cynical in my middle age.

I wont be signing - there is no shame in not having a medal despite having served and giving this one away to everyone would devalue it.

At the end of the day, the Queen has decreed that we are to have a medal and decreed the eligibility criteria. If you don't like that, then buy a fake one.

I don't denigrate other medal holders just because I praised the serious ones.
I am against, as Geehovah says, a medal that goes to someone with 6 years service who's still in, but doesn't to someone who retired last year with 40 years, whatever branch/trade.

.. and likewise, flogging round low level was quite dangerous enough thanks, though I don't want a medal 'cos I enjoyed it:)

No thanks I will not be signing, Still serving and happy to have received my Op/Campaign medals (that cost a ferking fortune to get remounted each time), but I agree with the earlier posts where do we draw the line etc... would it not be better to just give us all a day off.
Sorry

You would have thought that Her Majesty the Queen at least deserved the apostrophe of possession to describe her Diamond Jubilee Medal - or is that regarded as old school these days? Or is it for more than one Queen? Maybe if you can't get details like that correct, old farts like me are less likely to take the petition seriously in the first place.

So that will be a 'NO' then...
Fully support all above comments...:D

Unless you had been standing in No 1, 34, 67 etc in the queue you would not have got one anyway.

If someone really, really, really wants a DJM then why not buy one?

The Vets with real medals probably wouldn't want one especially with the expense of adding it to all their other medals. The Vets that might be creating probably don't have any at all.

PS,

One Vet I know has a seriously long string of medals. The pin is so long he practically had a DIY vasectomy when he put them in his pocket - ouch!:ouch:

My first experience of the "All must have prizes" policy was on a visit to the US Air Force Academy in the 1960s. I noted that some of the cadets sported medal ribbons. On enquiring as to the nature of the award I was informed that 1965 had been declared National Defense (sic) Year and all serving members of the US armed forces had been awarded the medal. My informant went on to say "We call it Alive in '65".

Says it all really

YS

I agree with most of the other posters so far, a big "NO" from me. Why should some long since retired 'veteran' get a medal when some of those serving and dying in Afghanistan aren't even in line?

What do you want it for? To hang next to that one you brought from a company in a magazine? Give that National Service medal something to rattle against next time you are propping up the bar in the legion, telling all and sundry your 'war stories' from the bad old days of the BAOR, fighting off the Soviet hoard whilst having to cope with yellow handbags und dodgy frikadellers?

"Lance General of the RAF W Mitty take one pace forward, 49 Para are looking for you".

KF,

Que?

A big No from me,
glad I missed the Golden Jubilee trinket too.
Everyone I've met with serious medals, e.g DFC etc was really deserving of them. Wouldn't dream of pretending I'm in the same class.

I have RAF Wings - always found this is enough to impress the world.

"I have RAF Wings - always found this is enough to impress the world."


If you mix in company that's impressed by a set of wings (really???), just think what a set of shiny fake medals would do as an addition! I sense a missed opportunity about to go by here...
;)

Fox, had you done your time, ie been there, then you would have been proud to wear it. In a sense it is a short time variant of the LSGCM as you only needed 5 years to qualify and had to be there at the time.

You could equally denigrate the LSGCM but I think those that did the time and have one would agree they earnt it.

However granting the DJM to all and sundry on account of previous service - no. Next they would be asking for the LSGCM after leaving the service as well.

A couple of years ago I was asked by a work colleague to photograph a DFC that had been awarded to her late father during WW2. I felt very humbled just to be trusted with its handling as I realised that to earn it, he had displayed the sort of courage that I have thankfully never been tested for.

My one and only operational medal means more to me than the LSGC that hangs next to it, as it reminds me of some who came home in coffins every time I see it, and particularly at this time of year.

Some medals are earned more than others and as a retiree, I personally would not want a medal in the Jubilee series alongside those I received while in service, as it would just feel "wrong" to me.


(Regarding my previous post - just in case of misunderstanding - the tongue was firmly in the cheek and I wasn't knocking the Flying badge or its owner!)

I should say at the outset that I am humbled by the citations I read from past and current conflicts.

Maybe I'm in a minority but surely the Diamond Jubilee Medal is not a recognition of bravery but rather of service, just as the earlier "celebration" medals. Does that mean someone who has served for 6 years is more worthy than someone who served for 40 years but now retired. That service might have been in in a conflict zone or in Station HQ - but is service nonetheless.

I served in places which earned me a medal. I was not allowed to accept medals from other nations (some quite prestigious). The few I received put me in less danger of losing my life than flogging around at low level in Germany. None of us chose the AOR at the time we served.

Lets not confuse a DFC with a long service medal. Both have their places.

I totally agree and have signed the petition, doubt the powers that be will take any notice though, I served in The royals signals 5 years + 1972 to 1977. Missed out on a GSM N Ireland because I wasn't 18, also missed tour of gulf of Oman in 1975 which would have received GSM because I was in kenya on exercise,and obviously didnt win in the raffle for QSJM which I would have received if the same criteria had been used for the QGJM and the forthcoming QDJM.
Hope something comes from the petition.

To say nothing of the cost of mounting the medal: £10 per medal on the bar (plus cost of miniature medal plus mounting at same cost?) - add it to recent conflicts and QGJ/LSGC etc. Certainly over £100 for many people unless you can wrangle a good deal.

Surely its a wah?!
 

I thought this was a joke when I first read it. Using the logic displayed by some on here I reckon I should be entitled to the Silver Jubilee Medal because I am alive and served at some stage during the reign of the Queen.
Seriously, you've left the forces. Thank you for your service but please, let go!

FG,

The Diamond Jubilee Medal will sit alongside the Golden Jubilee Medal. It's not like the MBE - OBE - CBE thing where one supercedes t'other.

Old Duffer

Oh come on - if that's the strength of the argument then this petition will go nowhere. Based on your logic, I should be able to get the Congo OSM because I was doing some work for the Op but from the UK rather than in country, and you may as well throw a speculative can I have the 1991 Gulf Medal in as well because I didn't get it back then because I was only 15 at the time'.

It's unfortunate, but there are very specific criteria for the QDJM and I don't know why people are spending time and energy looking for ways round them. I missed out on the QGJM by a couple of months, ho hum, I'm not going to spend the next 10 years campaigning for a change of criteria for it. If it were a petition that those being discharged prior to the 5 year cut off because of injuries received on ops, then that would probably have a lot of mileage, but this really is just a fairly unconvincing case.

Only two of the nine who took part in the Battle of Mirbat received a medal; Labalaba (one of two KIA) had an MID.

Viz

I'm in receipt of a veteran's badge and will get another choccy gong because my HM Forces service can be aggregated with what I do now. Call me a bluff old traditionalist, I got other medals for "putting my pink body on the line" and the QDJM is really just a celebration of HM's long service through recognising "long" service of her crown servants.

I won't be signing the petition as I believe you're either serving at time of recognition or you're not - simple.

LJ

I read somewhere (here maybe) that the new medal is significantly smaller than our campaign medals. I'm wondering if it will look odd!!

FG, no odder than the QSJM, QGJM and QDJM all in a row.

PN - that row will appear on the medal groups of pre 1977 surviving Victoria Cross winners, who automatically receive subsequent jubilee and coronation medals.

Btw FATTOR GATOR, British jubilee and coronation medals have been 32mm in diameter since 1911, as opposed to 36mm for campaign medals, so there is nothing new in the smaller size.

Tankertrashnav
 

In the words of a certain Rhodie pilot
'Roger thanks.....Cheers!'

I won't be signing the petition.

BTW does it replace my Golden Jubilee 'medal' or sit alongside?

As a 'veteran' I am really not interested in this medal. I'm not serving anymore so what have I done to deserve this chocolate medal?:=

I was in the Boy Scouts in 1977, if I can't have a Queen's Silver Jubilee Medal for promising "to do my duty for God and The Queen" then please sign my e-petition at Walter Mitty's Restaurant - Home Page

Jeeezz! :ugh:

LJ

You're welcome, GATOR

Alongside, to the right of the Golden Jubilee as you look at the medals. After any campaign medals but before any long service medal. Members of the royal family who were around in 1953 will have the full set, Coronation 1953 and the three jubilee medals.

Wonder if any of them follow PPruNe? Always suspected Drapes is a minor royal in disguise ;)

Brought forward from the Pprune Time Machine (post #33)!!! I've no idea why my first post has date/timed 6 hours earlier!

Viz

I'm in receipt of a veteran's badge and will get another choccy gong because my HM Forces service can be aggregated with what I do now. Call me a bluff old traditionalist, I got other medals for "putting my pink body on the line" and the QDJM is really just a celebration of HM's long service through recognising "long" service of her crown servants.

I won't be signing the petition as I believe you're either serving at time of recognition or you're not - simple.

LJ