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Fox3WheresMyBanana 25th Nov 2011 16:35

A big No from me,
glad I missed the Golden Jubilee trinket too.
Everyone I've met with serious medals, e.g DFC etc was really deserving of them. Wouldn't dream of pretending I'm in the same class.

I have RAF Wings - always found this is enough to impress the world.

P6 Driver 25th Nov 2011 18:52

"I have RAF Wings - always found this is enough to impress the world."


If you mix in company that's impressed by a set of wings (really???), just think what a set of shiny fake medals would do as an addition! I sense a missed opportunity about to go by here...
;)

Pontius Navigator 25th Nov 2011 19:21

Fox, had you done your time, ie been there, then you would have been proud to wear it. In a sense it is a short time variant of the LSGCM as you only needed 5 years to qualify and had to be there at the time.

You could equally denigrate the LSGCM but I think those that did the time and have one would agree they earnt it.

However granting the DJM to all and sundry on account of previous service - no. Next they would be asking for the LSGCM after leaving the service as well.

P6 Driver 25th Nov 2011 19:53

A couple of years ago I was asked by a work colleague to photograph a DFC that had been awarded to her late father during WW2. I felt very humbled just to be trusted with its handling as I realised that to earn it, he had displayed the sort of courage that I have thankfully never been tested for.

My one and only operational medal means more to me than the LSGC that hangs next to it, as it reminds me of some who came home in coffins every time I see it, and particularly at this time of year.

Some medals are earned more than others and as a retiree, I personally would not want a medal in the Jubilee series alongside those I received while in service, as it would just feel "wrong" to me.


(Regarding my previous post - just in case of misunderstanding - the tongue was firmly in the cheek and I wasn't knocking the Flying badge or its owner!)

Geehovah 25th Nov 2011 20:13

I should say at the outset that I am humbled by the citations I read from past and current conflicts.

Maybe I'm in a minority but surely the Diamond Jubilee Medal is not a recognition of bravery but rather of service, just as the earlier "celebration" medals. Does that mean someone who has served for 6 years is more worthy than someone who served for 40 years but now retired. That service might have been in in a conflict zone or in Station HQ - but is service nonetheless.

I served in places which earned me a medal. I was not allowed to accept medals from other nations (some quite prestigious). The few I received put me in less danger of losing my life than flogging around at low level in Germany. None of us chose the AOR at the time we served.

Lets not confuse a DFC with a long service medal. Both have their places.

Daveylad 25th Nov 2011 20:34

I totally agree and have signed the petition, doubt the powers that be will take any notice though, I served in The royals signals 5 years + 1972 to 1977. Missed out on a GSM N Ireland because I wasn't 18, also missed tour of gulf of Oman in 1975 which would have received GSM because I was in kenya on exercise,and obviously didnt win in the raffle for QSJM which I would have received if the same criteria had been used for the QGJM and the forthcoming QDJM.
Hope something comes from the petition.

Wensleydale 26th Nov 2011 01:05

To say nothing of the cost of mounting the medal: £10 per medal on the bar (plus cost of miniature medal plus mounting at same cost?) - add it to recent conflicts and QGJ/LSGC etc. Certainly over £100 for many people unless you can wrangle a good deal.

Aynayda Pizaqvick 26th Nov 2011 07:07

Surely its a wah?!
 
I thought this was a joke when I first read it. Using the logic displayed by some on here I reckon I should be entitled to the Silver Jubilee Medal because I am alive and served at some stage during the reign of the Queen.
Seriously, you've left the forces. Thank you for your service but please, let go!

Old-Duffer 26th Nov 2011 10:20

FG,

The Diamond Jubilee Medal will sit alongside the Golden Jubilee Medal. It's not like the MBE - OBE - CBE thing where one supercedes t'other.

Old Duffer

Melchett01 26th Nov 2011 11:53


Missed out on a GSM N Ireland because I wasn't 18, also missed tour of gulf of Oman in 1975 which would have received GSM
Oh come on - if that's the strength of the argument then this petition will go nowhere. Based on your logic, I should be able to get the Congo OSM because I was doing some work for the Op but from the UK rather than in country, and you may as well throw a speculative can I have the 1991 Gulf Medal in as well because I didn't get it back then because I was only 15 at the time'.

It's unfortunate, but there are very specific criteria for the QDJM and I don't know why people are spending time and energy looking for ways round them. I missed out on the QGJM by a couple of months, ho hum, I'm not going to spend the next 10 years campaigning for a change of criteria for it. If it were a petition that those being discharged prior to the 5 year cut off because of injuries received on ops, then that would probably have a lot of mileage, but this really is just a fairly unconvincing case.

airborne_artist 26th Nov 2011 12:09

Only two of the nine who took part in the Battle of Mirbat received a medal; Labalaba (one of two KIA) had an MID.

Lima Juliet 26th Nov 2011 12:15

Viz

I'm in receipt of a veteran's badge and will get another choccy gong because my HM Forces service can be aggregated with what I do now. Call me a bluff old traditionalist, I got other medals for "putting my pink body on the line" and the QDJM is really just a celebration of HM's long service through recognising "long" service of her crown servants.

I won't be signing the petition as I believe you're either serving at time of recognition or you're not - simple.

LJ

FATTER GATOR 26th Nov 2011 15:17

I read somewhere (here maybe) that the new medal is significantly smaller than our campaign medals. I'm wondering if it will look odd!!

Pontius Navigator 26th Nov 2011 16:55

FG, no odder than the QSJM, QGJM and QDJM all in a row.

Tankertrashnav 26th Nov 2011 17:08

PN - that row will appear on the medal groups of pre 1977 surviving Victoria Cross winners, who automatically receive subsequent jubilee and coronation medals.

Btw FATTOR GATOR, British jubilee and coronation medals have been 32mm in diameter since 1911, as opposed to 36mm for campaign medals, so there is nothing new in the smaller size.

FATTER GATOR 26th Nov 2011 17:55

Tankertrashnav
 
In the words of a certain Rhodie pilot
'Roger thanks.....Cheers!'

I won't be signing the petition.

BTW does it replace my Golden Jubilee 'medal' or sit alongside?

mr ripley 26th Nov 2011 17:59

As a 'veteran' I am really not interested in this medal. I'm not serving anymore so what have I done to deserve this chocolate medal?:=

Lima Juliet 26th Nov 2011 18:52

I was in the Boy Scouts in 1977, if I can't have a Queen's Silver Jubilee Medal for promising "to do my duty for God and The Queen" then please sign my e-petition at Walter Mitty's Restaurant - Home Page

Jeeezz! :ugh:

LJ

Tankertrashnav 26th Nov 2011 19:47

You're welcome, GATOR


BTW does it replace my Golden Jubilee 'medal' or sit alongside?
Alongside, to the right of the Golden Jubilee as you look at the medals. After any campaign medals but before any long service medal. Members of the royal family who were around in 1953 will have the full set, Coronation 1953 and the three jubilee medals.

Wonder if any of them follow PPruNe? Always suspected Drapes is a minor royal in disguise ;)

Lima Juliet 26th Nov 2011 20:42

Brought forward from the Pprune Time Machine (post #33)!!! I've no idea why my first post has date/timed 6 hours earlier!

Viz

I'm in receipt of a veteran's badge and will get another choccy gong because my HM Forces service can be aggregated with what I do now. Call me a bluff old traditionalist, I got other medals for "putting my pink body on the line" and the QDJM is really just a celebration of HM's long service through recognising "long" service of her crown servants.

I won't be signing the petition as I believe you're either serving at time of recognition or you're not - simple.

LJ


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